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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I’m sorry but uh, for what? The concept of collectible battle monsters?

Nintendo about to start suing plumbing companies for stealing the concept of Mario

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

To be fair I saw one "Pal" that just straight up used Zoruas model.

Nintendo never cared about stuff like Digimon or Cassette Beasts, so I'm guessing the problem is actual models made by Nintendo were used. Buuuuut this is Nintendo and they sent people cease and desists over Pokemon fan games FFS, so who the hell knows.

I mean, Palwords developers are skeezy, but on the other hand so is Nintendo, also fuck copyright.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

Since it's a patent lawsuit they're going after game mechanics rather than character designs, but we don't know which mechanics yet

[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Digimon

i get that they're commonly seen as rivals outside of japan (because saban localised the anime w/ the very intention of challenging pokemon, instead of leveraging the obvious differences), but like, if nintendo had gone after digimon, they'd be going after literally anything featuring monsters. the original 1997 iteration of digital monster was "tamagotchi for boys," which is where battling & evolution comes in comrade-raccoon

obv the similar names might seem awfully sus, but as i understand, the abbreviating of names like that is fairly common in japan. like, if we knew the franchises as pocket monster & digital monster, there would still be a similarity there, but it would seem less egregious ig.

thank u for suffering my autism

[–] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

We should make this a Digimon fan site. Sick of the PokePosuers on here.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Kicking myself for not making my account "ComradeWizardmon".

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Honestly Nintendo has had some big wins lately getting people to fold rather than fight in court even when the fight should be winnable. Maybe they're just hoping that happens here too. Get these guys all tied up in court even if Nintendo knows they won't win just to keep the Palworld devs occupied with the court fight rather than making their game

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

Look again. There were no model rips.

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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They didn't specify which patents were being infringed upon. It'll be interesting to see how this goes. It's in Japan so I assume Nintendo's got this in the bag

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

According to a Mastodon post, the speculation is it’s over “patents such as one for throwing and using Poké Balls in a 3D space (JP,2023-092953,A); and one for automatically switching between ride Pokémon as a player transitions between different terrain, such as between air and the ground (JP,2023-092954,A)."

IANAL, certainly not in Japanese patent law, but the first one sounds stronger to me, but still not bulletproof.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 56 points 1 month ago (3 children)

God patents for game mechanics are so fucking stupid and should be thrown out entirely

[–] huf@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the idea of patents were sold to us with this romantic tale of the lone inventor being able to live off his genius.

none of that is real. patents are absurd and should be abolished, just like copyright (sold to us with a similar fairytale).

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

The fundamental flaw with patents is being transferrable and the property model of them. Within the context of the current political economy, it would make more sense if someone used another’s patent commercially, the patent holder just gets a tax credit equal to some small percentage of the sales. And sweet Jesus the entire concept of being able to buy and sell patent rights is fucked up.🔝

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I have pretty ambivalent feelings now, on one side my most hated videogame corpo ever, on the other chuds that openly advertise their game as slavery and exploitation simulator.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Agreed honestly. I just think this is a really fuckin stupid move on TPC's part because this TOTALLY is going to have a Streisand backlash regardless of the outcome of the suit. Which means we have to hear even more chud bullshit about it.

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[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is it just the advertising that you disagree with? Kinda seems like pokemon is also a slavery and exploitation simulator but all the slaves have happy faces instead of sad ones

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pokemon is a wrestling manager simulator

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Seeing the rock on the street and trying to capture him in a ball

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't just come in here with takes I'll be thinking about all day.

[–] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

It's 100% correct. Pokemon is Wrestle Angels.

Yes, i also don't like Pokemon very much, but Pokemon isn't openly being advertised to chuds as slavery simulator. I don't have opinion on a game, as you can notice reading the previous posts, but whomever wrote the advert needs long rest in gulag.

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[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's insane to me how often I see takes like this, where it's clear that not only did they not play the game, they didn't even watch a second of gameplay.

If the game didn't HEAVILY penalize you for actually trying to exploit your pals, I'd agree, but mechanically a sweatshop will actually produce nothing at all in a short period of time. Bad working conditions lead to pals stopping work altogether until you let them rest, feed them, etc. to the point it's obvious their marketing and actual game design aren't in lockstep. You're REQUIRED to treat pals well to make substantial progress.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (11 children)

If you advertise your game as a slaveowner simulator, people are going to conclude it's a slaveowner simulator. That's how marketing works.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Devs themselves advertise their game like that. Reviews are full of chuds too. It's not even changed after all those months leading me to conclusion it's intended.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I was interested in the concept at first but it's the exact shit you mention that killed any enthusiasm I had.

"It's not optimal to be cruel" and "you can fight the poachers" c'mon now, they clearly know what they're implying and to assert otherwise is dishonest.

Maybe I'm "too sensitive" but them leaning into the vibe of cruelty and exploitation of deliberately cute, innocent sentient beings just made the whole thing feel gross to me. Personally I'd rather it not be an option at all but I'm clearly not the target demo, a not insignificant portion of which is irony poisoned chuds

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[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Nerd got banned and took it to dms lmao. If you're reading this, you can eat my ass, punk

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

He also send message to me about good devs and evil marketing. Real g*mer moment. And the second dude is being ever funnier blaming it on... language barrier because it's 1830 and obviously Japanese devs don't know English.

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[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you report this that nerd will likely get sitebanned for dm haressment

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's insane

"Everyone who criticizes the treats is mentally ill (and mental illness makes their opinions invalid), a bedtime story for treat defenders."

[–] IWantToMakeProgress@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Slavery playstyle is more of a meme. You're more pushed into the playstyle of improving the Pals's condition, upgrade path from better bed, better hotspring, better food, ... so they can work and rest better. It's a sandbox survival game, you can choose how to play it.

You can improve the pal's life ingame, but you as the pal in real life is kitty-birthday-sad

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I didn't played it, my opinion is based on a description/advertisement put by devs on the game steam page, and its one of the worst things i ever read there, at best it can be described as "ironic chuddery" which is usually just a flimsy cover for real chuddery, and even gathering all the benefit of a doubt existing in galaxy for the devs, such description is sure bound to gather real chuds to the game. And it did, considering the reviews.

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[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Joke lawsuit. The only valid response is a fedposting to any lawyer or judge who decides to waste time arbitrating whether or not a soulless husk can own a concept.

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[–] nothx@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

lol nice.

Fuck Nintendo, but this is funny to me because it’s just another cash grab early access game by a pop up game studio. they are about to spend all their profits on litigation and then abandon the game just like the rest of their projects.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

Nintendo is the Disney of bideo bames, is up to the same kind of skullduggery, and has a similar toxic fandom that'll go to the mat for them.

[–] goose@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

When Palworld came out, I was surprised that the ever-litigious Nintendo didn't take some sort of legal action. So to all the people on here who thought that was a bad take and called me out, all I have to say now is: you're lovely and I appreciate you

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Having played palworld it is a significantly diffrent product. I don't see specifics in thr article but it is unclear to me what the actual claim could be

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 9 points 1 month ago

Nintendo is being evil again I'm so shocked

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