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The only naive mistake on any players' part would be playing with this guy in the first place

Pinging @UlyssesT@hexbear.net because I know you hate this stuff too

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 58 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

For a palate cleanser, here's what Rich Burlew (author of Order of the Stick) has to say on the subject:

[–] booty@hexbear.net 39 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I was expecting this to be shit. Pleasantly surprised sicko-wholesome

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 44 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Rich can be an abrasive dick at times, but he's always been vocally opposed to the "genocide good" section of TTRPG players (and has gone on record saying that alignment shouldn't be listed in racial stat blocks).

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 31 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Alignment is kinda dated. I'm glad people are moving on from it. My game I'm in now we basically ignore it.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 32 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Pathfinder 2e has gotten rid of alignment entirely as a tangible concept

Everything is based around edicts (things a character, culture or organization approve of and strive towards) and anathema (things that piss off said characters, cultures and organizations)

It's another good move forward

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago

I'm aware. I just haven't had time to run a PF2e game.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 29 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Alignment is for Outsiders in my group.

Yes, that demon is literally a concept of Evil given physical form. No, that orc is not, stop being racist.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

a concept of Evil given physical form

"Is it sexy?" awooga

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

depends on the degree that Christian protestant sexual morality had influence on the design (more Protestantism = more sexually charged conceptions of evil)

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[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah that's the only real reason to use it imho

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 11 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I actually really like this use for alignment, as the thembo that has been laughed away from several online games because I like the concept of Drow trying to leave the surface world in a better state for the next one to escape the Underdark. The slow death of racial alignments has been so fucking vindicating.

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[–] REgon@hexbear.net 11 points 4 weeks ago

I remember someone talking about how they had changed spells like "Detect good & evil" to instead detect wether they've got qualities that are considered "good" in the culture of the caster.
Like if your culture values bravery or strength or guile or whatever and the being you cast it on exhibits those values, then it's "good"

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 26 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It really feels like older DnD players can either be super chill, or super fucked up.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Guess which of the two Gary Gygax was

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago

As far as i know, Dead.

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago

To my knowledge fucked up.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 47 points 4 weeks ago

"If my players aren't genocidal freaks like me, my thinly veiled racist caricatures will try to convince them" smuglord

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 39 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Gary Gygax was the proto-chud for this sort of thing, declaring that a Lawful Good paladin must murder the children of "evil" races or else he isn't being Lawful Good.

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Pinging @UlyssesT@hexbear.net because I know you hate this stuff too

Damn right I do. "Goblin Slayer" is loaded with nazi shit from the get-go and it's all narrator declared worldbuilding.

I HATE THE THERMIAN ARGUMENT

I HATE THE THERMIAN ARGUMENT

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

To be fair, chuds hate the thermian argument too; if you have a fantasy or sci-fi setting with an advanced race of humans who aren't white, they get upset.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Perhaps, though far more often than not (including on Hexbear) I see it being used to justify reactionary shit, from Goblin Slayer and Shield Hero and Gate and Attack on Titan's narrator-driven ideologies to increasingly-stale anti-creativity bottlenecks like Nintendo's insistence that "the prophecy(tm)" from a roughly 30 year old game requires endless repetition of the same primary beats of Zelda games forever and ever with Zelda pretty much forbidden from having playable character agency since after the CDi era except with metaphysical asspulls like, so I hear, Link's spirit allowing her to swing a sword but only then, and silliness like that.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

(I was kidding; I was implying chuds only hate the thermian argument when it's an opportunity to be bigoted)

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 38 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I play DND with queer theater kids

[–] Des@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago

best DM i ever had was one of those.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 34 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Smh, fake D&D fans getting their morality from Goblin Slayer. Real D&D Racists get their morality from Gary "I am Adolf Hitler" Gygax.

CW: 19th century racism

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 33 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I saw some DND guy say that the way WOTC is handling the game is making Gygax spin in his grave, which as much as I'd hate to praise WOTC, they are doing a very good thing by making him spin in his grave.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Smh, Hasbro is disrespecting the guy who saw fit to include a Random Harlot Table in the AD&D DMG. Has Big Woke gone too far!?

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

tag yourself I'm the expensive doxy

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Random Harlot Table

That straight-up sounds like something you'd see in FATAL

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You're underselling it. Fantasy Adventure To Adult Lechery aka F.A.T.A.L. has [Sex Worker] as a playable class! They gain ~~XP~~ AP for getting people off.

No, really.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

i pirated a copy of that game as part of a big package years ago. flipped through it out of curiosity because i had always heard the rumors

and it was just so fucking lame. i say this as a very sex positive person. just absolute incel levels of sexuality.

wouldn't surprise me if it was cobbled together as a group effort on 4chan.

i've seen far better fan made hornystuff modules for D20 (and even they are just too much)

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

wouldn't surprise me if it was cobbled together as a group effort on 4chan.

FATAL actually predates 4chan (released in 2002, 4chan was founded in 2003).

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

They are then sent off to their reward before they can backslide. :D

40k paint-huffing fascist prototype brain there.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 30 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

Goblins usually being chaotic mischevious troublemakers because of the material conditions and cultural stigma that other races have against them is fine but that's it. Pathfinder handles that a lot better.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago

Eberron does it well too; the goblins in the city of (can't remember) were once majorly advanced, but then ~~white~~ barbarian people happened, now they live poverty stricken in slums.

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[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 27 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I dont understand any appeal to make a race "inherently evil" like if you want something players can kill without remorse just add bandits or asshole knights.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

For years, I've established justifiable targets for violence and they were never born that way but chose to be assholes. My group was more than happy to slay them. Well, except for a few notoriously bad players that I've ranted about before. One was so chuddy that he got mad at the idea of evil sometimes looking pretty and good maybe sometimes being ugly. "I'm so SICK of that politically correct bullshit!" grill-broke

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[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

Racism. Racism is the appeal.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 27 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The catch is that if you're ruthless towards goblins, their natural enemy (kobolds) will spiral out of control and turn the entire world into a murderhole

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

anti kobold propaganda. w- they would never would do such a thing

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago

grumpy-lizard FREE KURTULMAK! DOWN WITH GLITTERGOLD AND THE GNOME OPPRESSORS! grumpy-lizard

A good DM won't let you massacre the demon children. A great DM will ensure you don't forget about the moral implications of killing demon children. I remember my party thought the best tactic to stop a fascist invasion would be scorched earth tactics on a critical town. However, they scorched the earth with people in it and ended up massacring the townspeople. I tried to have an arc about trying to atone for that and dealing with the fallout but I wasn't quite good enough to pull it off.

[–] milk_thief@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago

Mfer talks about a show that could have come out of Goebbels' ass or be some greasy racist 1980 porn movie like it's a source of inspiration for his next play at the duke's court

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Your innately evil force in your game that exisrts for people to have something to stab shouldn't create circumstances wherein the players have the opportunity to commit crimes against humanity.

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

if you paint goblins as an ontologically evil force then yes, but if it's just some goblin babies and they're fighting goblins as part of a normal conflict and they decide to kill the babies as a first option, than either the players need to examine their RPG brainworms or leave the group

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I have been kicking around a campaign idea where the BBEG is an evil wizard that has sucked all the evil out of the world to use for himself, so anything evil is instantly vaporized. Of course, the Wizard is evil and controlling, but it also upsets the natural order, so he must be stopped. Goblins are aligned neutral evil (As they often are) but along the way, the adventurers find a village of goblins who have learned to be good, but are under constant temptation do to bad things. So as the adventurers walk around the town, if they don't stop a goblin from biting them or pick pocketing them, POOF, goblin gone.

Of course this leads to a meditation on good and evil, and what that really means. Also all of the goblins are named after military contractors.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It's be funnier if the goblins being good was disturbing the natural order of the universe so the adventurers have to turn them back to evil to save the world from disharmony.

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