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The irony is their obsession with domination is killing the planet, and in turn will worsen their chances of survival.

I hate how they are dragging us all down with them

I fucking give up on these idiots. Too dumb to live.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago (4 children)

To the person who reported this thread because hmm it might make whitey feel bad, go look at ALL THE RACIST SHIT that is posted in dunk and dredj tank today for some reason and then go shut the fuck up for a while thanks

[–] afters@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago

Just replace “cis white” with “muslim” and it’d be a top post on reddit

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

um, excuse me, but as a white man, this makes me feel empathy

UNACCEPTABLE!

kitty-birthday-sad

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Aaaand this is why I always go for an over the top title with these things, it weeds out the reactionaries (but also sorry for making your job harder)

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

No worries. You aren't the issue here!

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One time I reported a badpost because I liked the song that they posted hoping to get called out like this but the mod didn't bite.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

If it was me I woulda done it. I always commit to the bit

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not just cis whites, I got driven out of a Discord that was like 1/3 trans for saying that I wouldn't vote for the Democrats because they support genocide. I talked about this previously, but I've had similar experiences since then among people who were otherwise strongly left-leaning.

If you live in the imperial core, there is no faster or surer way to make an enemy of everyone around you than to stand by your conviction that those in the periphery are human.

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[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In no way is it just the cis ones lmfao

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think that was our comrade making a carve-out for themselves, as often happens with these kinds of posts.

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whites are gonna white no matter what marginalization they may have

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My point wasn't that we need a more hardline position on the eradication of white people (as some in this thread express), my point was that this misanthropic bullshit is just a way of finding a convenient "out" for problems.

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah the "I'm white and think we're all* trash" bit from this site like never comes from someone that actually cares about unlearning racism, it's purely performative but a performance for other whites who also think the discussion about racism should center white feelings

[–] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

I have only been here two months but it seems that performative self-flagellation is popular here

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[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

yea

The ukraine war makes me question if we live in the same reality sometimes. There's something so existentially horrifying about thousands of people pointlessly dying fighting over some village with 5000 residents in the middle of a bombed out wasteland and this just repeats month after month, but half the people around me talk abut it like it's an exciting sports game.

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

Its doubly fucked when you live in cities that are just like theirs,and your grandparents live in villages just like those

And then you move away from the border,and into the capital,and it's like you stepped into another reality,no alarms at night,no jets flying overhead,it's like the war is something on tv again (Not Ukrainian,but I live on the border with them)

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

There's something so existentially horrifying about thousands of people pointlessly dying fighting over some village with 5000

Well if it makes you feel better this isnt what they're fighting for. Russia is systemically dismantling the Ukrainian proxy state and removing US influence from the region. Weakening NATO as a whole. The world will be better at the end of it.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I went to argue with you as a cis white but i fat-fingered the ppb button instead and owned myself

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

Glad it's not just me that does that.

[–] Dingus_Khan@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some of them, I assume, are good people a-little-trolling

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

Very fine people on both sides,I say

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I shouldn't think this way, but if all cis whites had to die (me with them), I wouldn't be that upset

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok but I would be sad if you died.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Just imagine what it would do for the climate apocalypse and Global South if all cis whites died though. If it had real shot of happening I'd probably advocate for it.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Comrade this is a very misanthropic view. Many many cis whites are perfectly fine, delightful people, just with incredibly deeply bored brain worms.

Were you not once a liberal? If not you are in a lucky minority.

These people don't need to die they need to be reeducated. We are steadily making progress despite the resistance of the fiercest most well resourced reactionaries.

Look at the campus protests, how many of those people were cis whites?

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's also deeply non-materialist. There is nothing inherent to one's skin tone or gender identity in terms of ideology, no one is born a imperialist. The reason most people in the global north support the current world order is because they are it's beneficiaries. That order is not going to change just because the racial or gender identity of those in charge or making up the empire changes. New cultural identities will form to justify the global capitalist-imperialist system in such a scenario. These ideologies adapt and change to suit what is required by the global capitalist system, and not the other way around. Look at the history of Liberia for example, where freed African American and Afro Caribbean people proceeded to form their own cultural identity and colonised a part of Africa. Communitarian ideologies based around race or gender identity cannot be a substitute for the absence of a socialist ideology in the working class. This is true for even the most radical of communities.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Thanos snapping white people from existence would just mean Japan is the new center of capital. The imperial core would still exist and most of the subimperialist parts like the UAE would just get "promoted" to imperialist.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

GOOD comment

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's a throw away comment, and not something I'd genuinely advocate for.

Edit: yes I used to be a huge liberal.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know you wouldn't advocate for that seriously but you seemed down so I was hoping to cheer you up

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

Nah I'm good, but thank you comrade. I'm far from a perfect white ally or anything, but I've just been so damn disappointed with nearly all white people in my life, with the exception of hexbear. Thanks for looking out for me.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Genocide of any kind would be bad, and the system would just be taken over by POC imperialists because nothing about the system itself changed. There would be a bit of a crisis, yeah, but I think Kamala would come out on top and set everything straight. The thing about whiteness being an artificial category made for the perpetuation of the bourgeois state is that there is no essentially "white" person and nothing that intrinsically separates them, as a bloc, from POC.

This is just the wrong way to look at the issue.

CC: @Commiejones@hexbear.net

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah as a fellow straight person of low melanin content I'm with you on this. Like it'd be better if the death was means tested not skin/sexuality based but pretty sure unlimited genocide on the white cissys would probably be a net benefit too good to say no to even if it takes a few good people with the bad.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Time to start up the "Down with Cis" bus for real

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

like ButtBidet, I'm down for vanishing from the world to save it from the rest of our kind

Down With Cis

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

eh. i wouldnt be here if my friends had given up on me

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

When you put it that way, I'll keep trying

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I hate me too! floppy-parrot

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

You are more than the color of your skin

[–] Stoneykins@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

I can't think of anything meaningful to say here but same...

I'm tired...

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

I don't know if crabs in a bucket mentality is the right term or what, but the sentiment of ”I'm willing to let everyone else suffer so I don't have to compromise even the littlest bit on my treats” is disgustingly strong.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

I've felt this way since I was like...12. Do not trust them one bit.

[–] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

They are the vanguard of capitalism and imperialism because it benefits them the most.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

What do you expect from them with that brow slope and brainpan

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