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Those were something, weren't they? I thought it was the coolest thing ever as a kid, just the absolute peak of technology.

And in hindsight... Yeah, it was a pretty comfortable way to play videos and music, wasn't it? And the click wheel iPods even had a surprisingly decent selection of games.

While I'm here, whatever happened to those Kindle e-readers with the physical page turn buttons and keyboard? I kinda feel like they stopped selling those, but I feel like that was kind of preferable to a touch screen, too.

I guess just in general I don't like touch screens and it'll be a good day when they stop being integrated into things that don't actually need them. I'm out here thinking that flip phones beat smartphones still

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[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t have a keyboard on it, but my ereader has physical page turning buttons. And it’s open source and I don’t have to jump through hoops to put pirated content on it.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

An open source e-reader with physical page turning buttons? Do go on.

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

There’s one in development that I’m considering building, it’s called the Open Book and here’s the project page https://theopenbook.is/

I think the mainstream option is probably a Kobo Libra with something like KoReader installed.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I have a kobo, like the other guy said

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bring back the slide out physical keyboards on phones.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Actually, one thing I will concede is that I do really like Dessalines' Thumb-key. There is a certain level of satisfaction that comes from a physical keyboard, but flick input is also pretty satisfying in its own way... Alas, if only there were a way to have the best of both worlds, right?

[–] 12022081631@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The Sandisk Sansa e200s had the worst software ever (hey let me spend 10 mins rebuilding metadata indices every single time you add or remote one track) but the clickwheel felt so goddamned good.

Modern consumer technology design has largely stripped away our ability to experience devices as things in the natural world/as designed things. Its all this freaking software crap!!!!!!!!!!!!

the wheels are like a funny little hack to this problem

While I'm here, whatever happened to those Kindle e-readers with the physical page turn buttons and keyboard? I kinda feel like they stopped selling those, but I feel like that was kind of preferable to a touch screen, too.

the kobo i bought like 2 years ago still has those page turn buttons :) no keyboard tho

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you srill have your e200, Rockbox makes it smooth and you can run Doom.

The wheel went bad on mine so I swapped it for a later wheeled model and 2x the price of a generic MP4 player of similar size, but it wasn't the same; I found it in my box of dead phones a few weeks ago, the soft-touch coating all sticky yuck.

[–] 12022081631@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

yea i found the e200 wheels were nice to start but they got really mushy after a while. i can see why you replaced it

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Omg you just reminded me I had a sansa fuze and it had a wonderful physical click wheels. I think the software on it was better than what you described but I put Rockbox on it once I learned that I could. It ran Doom quite well.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I also had a Fuze, that physical wheel was fantastic. I also Rockbox'd it, worked great.

When I make my own mp3 player that prioritizes good physical controls and high quality haptics I'll be sure to post it.

[–] FidelChadstro@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lol oh shit I had one too! My cheap dad refused to pay for an ipod, so we had a rotation of off brand mp3 players

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I, too, despise touch screens and refuse to use them unless they actually suit the device or I'm forced to.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck touchscreen stoves! Fuck touchscreen stoves! Fuck touchscreen stoves! Fuck touchscreen stoves! Fuck touchscreen stoves!

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

That sentiment deserves repetition a bit more than five times.

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that cars are moving towards non-tactile touch screens as the ONLY way to interact with the stereo and climate controls makes me want to do fun legal things to an R&D lab.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there any fucking reason for a "touch screens for everything" consumer product mandate besides The Gospel of St. Steve Jobs?

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At scale it has less discreet components so it is cheaper to produce

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

I can see that. It fucking sucks, but I see it now.

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mediocre touchscreens are far cheaper for manufacturers than good quality physical buttons these days. I much prefer physical Interfaces for most things, and touch screen controls with really good haptics like Apple's touchpads or even the older iPod touch wheels can be great too and sometimes as good or better but but those still aren't touch screens. In fact the only reason the touchpad works well is that it has force sensors under it so that it's not just based on touch.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I dread ever buying another car since they all seem to be replacing the vehicles entire dash, status monitors, and UI with one cheap iPad knockoff.

[–] FidelChadstro@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

I test drove a 2024 Prius and the amount of screen was not preferable. I especially didn't like that the car reads speed limit signs, displays them on the dash, then turns red if you exceed that speed. I know I'm speeding, car, fuck off.

Bought a 2013 Mazda with dumb features (but with Bluetooth) and it's just right

Fortunately my car isn't so modern that everything is touch controls. And the mediocre touch screen for media can be replaced since it still uses a regular DIN rail mounting system. I just have to hope that I can keep it running forever since clearly public transport isn't happening in the US any time soon outside of cities. And I can't afford living in a city even if I can get rid of my car.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

I use a ~5 dollar usd mp3 player I got from aliexpress instead of my phone for when I am working out and I really like having buttons to press and it is way better than I expected for 5 dollars. It has a sd card slot, a headphone jack and even picks up the local radio

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The best part of those old ipods was the music quiz game that i've never found a replacement for in the smartphone era. all the "music quiz" games i see are just for random popular songs and not sampling from my own library

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, I don't even remember that, that would've been fun to play.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

I remember that game.

I also remember always losing it because I never listened to every single song on my iPod.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the brick game (i think that's what it was called) on the old ipods was awesome, i spent so much time playing that as a kid

Death to America

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[–] DerRedMax@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Still have mine. Still clicks. For a while I was using it as a FireWire drive. Then I threw it in the “white cords and apple stickers box.”

I was cleaning out stuff this summer and kinda just set it aside because I could think of a reason to throw it away.

That is why I am bad at declittering.

[–] neo@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's amused me since the Metal Gear Solid 4 came out that Snake has an Apple iPod, fully simulated with that exact click wheel design. And it was a good design.

I recently brought out my iPhone SE to use as an audio player. It's basically a glorified iPod Touch, but it at least has a headphone jack shrug-outta-hecks

[–] Truffle@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My car has a touch screen for audio stuff including volume. I HATE not having a knob to turn it up or down. Yes it has two buttons to go up or down on the steering wheel. No I don't like them and I would still rather have the knob thank you very much.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I never had one of the iPods with an actual HDD, but did have one of the earliest Nanos, and the click wheel was really nice.

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

E-readers with physical buttons still exist, but the companies price gouge for the privilege, since they're only on the top end models. I'd take the old style with only buttons if they still made them. E-Ink shows fingerprints worse than LCD's so it's kinda dumb to have a touch screens.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I remember when I first got a first gen ipod nano and it was the first ipod I'd ever actually touched, I tried a lot to do linear swipes across the click wheel and thought it wasn't working right before I figured out that you're supposed to swipe your finger on the touch surface in circular motions instead.

Anyway, the sansa fuze was an ipod nano but better in every way.