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Fedora, it fucking slaps and worked right out of the box. I'm using it for work and play on my main rig! I dual boot for some very specific hardware things that are not normal, but other than that it's been seamless! When I booted into Windows 10 again, they auto installed copilot... Glad to be done with this crap.

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[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations! In the years I've been using Linux it's only gotten better and Windows worse.

This is the year of Linux on desktop

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Of course Tom Bombadil uses Linux in his cute little cottage.

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago
[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

trans

Linux

It was foretold.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Chicken vs egg...

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 17 points 2 months ago

Congrats, and welcome to the linux community!

[–] Procapra@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I'm a boring desktop Debian 12 user. I take advantage of a backported kernel and I use the winehq repo from the website, but otherwise, Debian does everything I need it to do. Fedora is good though! I used it for over a year and I don't foresee you having too many problems.

Wine only really gives me trouble on old niche mod tools for certain games and anti cheats. Old games run really well on linux, 9x games and XP games that normally give windows trouble, just work. Modern games usually launch with negligible performance hits. Controller support is awesome. I have random 3rd party ps3 controllers that more or less just work (I have to remap the buttons usually, but that's a 20 sec fix.)

My only recommendation is try to stick to rpm packages instead of over relying on flatpaks/snaps. I don't care what anyone says, flatpaks/snaps tend to fill up your storage devices faster and it's not a good default when many people are still working with <2tb of storage.

Ignoring all my ramblings, welcome to linux!

[–] neo@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In an ideal state the more flatpaks you use the more efficient it is per flatpak. If you download one flatpak you also need the runtimes for it. If you download 10 flatpaks and they all share the runtime then the cost of having the runtime isn't so high, comparatively.

But as it turns out, some flatpaks don't update in sync with others and now you have multiple runtime flatpaks. If you use Nvidia drivers now you have the Nvidia driver installed twice on your system: the main install and the flatpak version of it. Ditto for Mesa. Stupid things like that.

I still use Flatpaks, though.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nvidia drivers now you have the Nvidia driver installed twice on your system

Hopefully this problem goes away once NVK formally drops and people don't have to install a big huge blob on their machines anymore. torvalds-nvidia

[–] neo@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Joke's on me! I have a pre-Turing Nvidia GPU which doesn't have open source module support. What I know for sure is that I'm not buying Nvidia again.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

yeah, its not like you need 2TB of ssd for flatpaks but they can eat up a big chunk of storage it you have say, <250 gb, or more if you actually have a lot of files to store too. And they can sometimes have permissions hiccups/headaches too. I tend to like them better than the alternative (snap or appimage) but across several distros I've noticed that native rpm/deb/etc packages usually have more care put into the fit and finish/quality of life aspects by the maintainer

[–] glans@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The impression I got from dabbling in fedora is that they highly push the flatpacks/snaps. I don't think the distro is very interested in having a centralized repo in the same way as debian or arch which are the two flavors I'm more framiliar with. They prefer this "immutable" model; it is a different thing. I didn't get it. But their repos are sparse, the GUI package manager is trash. I gave up due in main part to having to constantly install outside the package manager.

However that problem is highly contingent on my own use cases. If someone doesn't happen to need a lot of software which is missing in the system package manager, then it is not a problem for them. If it works, it works.

Ignoring all my ramblings too, welcome to linux!

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"immutable" model

It's not called immutable but instead "atomic" where the system is based on OCI image containers where upgrades take you from image A -> B and not updating individual packages.

But their repos are sparse

Compared to Arch or Nix yeah but it can easily be extended with COPRs and RPMFusion.

GUI package manager is trash

Not their fault lol, you gotta take it up with GNOME Software/packagekit. I like KDE Discover though. The system package manager DNF4 is getting an upgrade next release which should make it significantly faster which was always a complaint with Fedora.

I gave up due in main part to having to constantly install outside the package manager.

I solve this problem by installing Nix on top of Fedora, you can also install Nix (and then home-manager) on most Linux distros and it's a great way to get packages you want without polluting your system. It's honestly a better solution than trying to hunt for a native rpm/deb package. You could also install homebrew if you prefer that or distrobox.

I really like Fedora's 6 month release cycle (always stays on the ball with new features and changes) while not enforcing their view of the desktop (Ubuntu's snap model) on its users.

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[–] neo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

They prefer this "immutable" model; it is a different thing

This is only true in Fedora Silverblue (Gnome) or Kinoite (KDE). There is no immutability component to a normal installation of Fedora.

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[–] glans@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

club-penguin-dance nerd penguin-dance penguin-love penguin-dance nerd club-penguin-dance

Someone asked me to help them set up a bluetooth device on windows today and I couldn't even work the start menu. It sucks so bad. Linux causes some problems sometimes, but overall it spoils you.

[–] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago
[–] Luna@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lets-fucking-go waow-based ONE OF US

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Me too. I chose Endeavour OS (arch btw). Basically off the meme...and coz it seemed pretty bare bones and a good way to learn.

The only app Linux dosent have is a local sync for box.com (similar to dropbox). But it's a service I need to move away from anyway.

Truly is the year for Linux as someone said.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

for file backup I really like borg/vorta using either borgbase or rsync.net as the provider. Or if the idea is more just sync across devices, maybe nextcloud or something, though its pretty heavy if you're just using it for one service. Or rsync.net sans the borg part

[–] neo@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

For file synchronization (not backup, at least not without a bunch more steps) I use SyncThing. It's local, and can be configured to not connect or communicate with any remote service. It keeps a directory on my laptop and desktop in sync whenever they come into the same network.

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[–] glans@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

looks like rclone supports box.com! I never used it for that but rclone is a real gem; give it a shot. You might need to set some time aside to RTFM but it's time well spent because it has such wide compatibility and works basically the same way for all the services. once you know it, you know it.

might not suit your use case but if you are looking for a free file sync service to get away from box.com, disroot.org has a nextcloud instance among various other services. i have used them on and off for years. nextcloud uses webdav.

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[–] companero@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hell yeah possum-party

Just FYI, if you have issues with video playback, you may need to install RPM Fusion and its multimedia codecs

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[–] SummerIsTooWarm@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well done! tux-shining Don't be afraid to ask for advice if anything should arise

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is there a command line bootcamp?

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[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I have been doing fedora/windows dual boot for a while too but I got sick of having to switch, so I'm switching to separate boxes once I get space and quarantining the windows off on its own

[–] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Congrats, Fedora is a great choice to start with, it's well known as the "I just want things to work with minimal faffing" choice. You may want to have it installed on a separate drive rather than dual booting off the same drive if that's what you're doing, Windows likes to update and break grub.

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[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I may ask, what specific hardware?

For my use case with proprietary hardware I use USB Passthrough with QEMU (Virt-Manager)

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Anker webcam, rgb lighting, a handful of stubborn games (pirated) on the software side. I need to learn new photo editing software too, so I may have to pop in for Adobe here and there. Other cases may arise. I've used QEMU on my proxmox server, but I don't really know what I'm doing with it. blob-no-thoughts

[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For games you can use Lutris and/or heroic with WINE and Proton.

RGB stuff you can use OpenRGB.

The Anker webcam doesn't work with your Linux install? What model?

I hear Gimp is getting a big update here in the near future. Not sure your use case. I don't do much photo editing anymore.

Virt-Manager is straight forward, and is a GUI that can work with QEMU.

Hope this helps :)

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[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Darktable is a rather capable alternative to Lightroom

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

For photo editing, Gimp is about the same as Photoshop from 10 years ago.

For digital painting, Krita is good. I'm not a digital painter so I can't say how good.

For vector and design stuff, Inkscape is better than Illustrator. It's really good. (Except every non-Linux build of it I've used has been weirdly unstable.)

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

I've switched over to Krita from CS6, haven't done anything super complicated yet but so far I've loved the UI/UX and haven't found anything missing (unless you need stuff like built-in pantone colors)

[–] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Post the output of your lsusb. I bet the camera and lights aren’t hard.

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[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Damn. Sounds cool. I despise windows (naturally) and sometimes want to do this too. I am scared because windows is all I’ve ever known, but on the other hand it’s now almost unrecognizable from what I grew up with and I don’t really know how to do anything on it anymore. If I was ever a computer person, I am certainly not one now. Think switching would be worth the effort for a simpleton like me?

[–] roux@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Windows 8 almost destroyed my computer-illiterate father-in-law so I suggested he try Linux Mint and after a while he agreed. He was fine for the 3 or so years he used that laptop. There was an issue with it like 2 years after I did the install regarding the official repos being outdated and keeping regular updates from running but that was the only time I really had to mess with it for him.

I did my own distro hopping years ago and eventually settled on Linux Mint personally and I feel like it's probably among the better options for "just works" out of the box for people wanting to take the leap. I do know a lot of people praise Fedora with KDE too but I just never really got around to checking it out personally so can't vouch.

Even if you are computer illiterate, most stuff you need will be the official software center(repositories) of whatever distro you go with and it's all basically a one button click to install these days. But also command line isn't super scary either, but you mostly don't even need to use it for just everyday stuff.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Try watching this video, Linux isn't for "computer people" it's for people who reject being treated like trash and are searching for greener pastures.

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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Install it in a virtual machine and just full screen it and use it like that for a day. Ignoring that it's gonna run like ass you can get an idea of how things work, and if it doesn't work then just shut down the VM and go back to what you were doing before.

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[–] glans@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

anything you change it will be a learning curve

sometimes you might not have the bandwidth for this

if you can then FUCK YES you should

start by making a liveboot USB. If you go by @hello_hello@hexbear.net 's reccomendation of Mint, follow he instructions only steps "live boot" and "download". It will not change anything on your computer. Only an experiment.

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[–] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Let me know if you have any specific games that are giving you problems. I also use Fedora (as of about 4 months ago) and dumped Windows entirely during that time.

Learning my way around Bottles was good to learn a bit more about how to troubleshoot my own Windows application compatibility problems so that I could troubleshoot problems that people hadn't already solved with Lutris community scripts.

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[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

bridget-vibe Based Fedora decision, never switch off of Fedora you can literally do anything you want on it. Make sure to read up on Linux documentation (either from Fedora themselves or other sources like the Arch wiki), the more you learn now, the less pain you'll get later when you have manually intervene in something. Fedora is legitimately one of the best operating systems in the world and I'm so glad you found it. You can always ask questions in the libre comm if you wish.

My best piece of advice to new Linux users is to always discover and learn about more free software rather than trying to fit proprietary programs, you'd be surprised at how unnecessary old habits were (example: using ffmpeg/imagemagick to convert multimedia or yt-dlp to download youtube videos rather than going to websites or using standalone programs).

When I booted into Windows 10 again, they auto installed copilot...

wtf they're rolling it out to an operating system they'll stop supporting next year. Microsoft can't stop grifting it's just in its nature.

[–] glans@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

always discover and learn about more free software rather than trying to fit proprietary programs

you won't regret it

alternativeto.com is a fantastic resource to discover the libre alternative to whatever you have used previously

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[–] Yor@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago
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