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But if I walk 3 miles around my neighborhood that's a walk. I did that yesterday and I want to say I hiked but nobody will let mekitty-cri

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[–] Barx@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The first stage (a walk) is a reflection of a profound realty: "I'm going for a walk"

The second stage (a hike) masks and denatures a profound realty: "I'm going for a walk and it's special because of the settler myth of 'the wild'

The third stage (an "urban hike") masks the absence of a profound realty: "I'm going for a walk and it feels special like a hike but it doesn't count as such because it's not in 'the wild'"

The final stage (trail running) has no relation to any reality whatsoever: "I'm going to run in the woods and bother people for 'fitness' (yeah right)"

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i think of hiking as something done over uneven ground, maybe a dirt trail at most. a "walk" is a broader term, but is tended to be associated as a means of travel ("take a" bus, car, bike, walk) over a paved surface in the context of the built environment.

i don't assume this is technically correct, but if i am trying to talk plainly that's how i use them. confusing or blurring the boundaries can be an easy bit, because hike implies more distance and maybe even gear. "the bathroom is downstairs. it's kind of a hike."

also there's the dismissive go away... "take a walk, buddy" vs "take a hike, buddy"... the hike one seems to tell someone to go farther away, maybe in a direction away from other people even."

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

So literally road cycling vs mountain biking.

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

I'd say this is accurate, it's mostly how well-groomed the path is. A hike will require you to navigate over natural obstacles like rocks, roots, logs, streams, etc. at some point, where a walk does not. A paved path all the way up a mountain is a walk, but a relatively flat but rocky trail through the woods is a hike.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

taps the sign

No Backpack,

No Walking stick,

No Socks above the knee?

Not Hiking.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hiking is to walking as mountain biking is to... regular biking. It'd be odd to say you were mountain biking if you just went around the neighborhood. Honestly even calling a walk through a field a hike is pushing it, but I guess that's as wild as nature gets in some places

[–] mechwarrior2@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

ITT: hexbear hiKkkers deny the settler logic of the "outdoorsman"

[–] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm certain I know what all these words mean but have no idea what you meant. Could you explain?

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

hiKkkers = crackers

settler logic = crackers

"outdoorsman" = crackers

As someone who loves hiking. Parks and such perpetuate this obnoxious settler notion that "nature" is a place separate from us, and that we are simply "visitors"to it. Rather than a part of a vast, dialectical, web of interconnected relationships.

It's fucking stupid, and I hate it.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

I always thought hike involved changes in elevation and woods. Anything else? Walk.

[–] frosty99c@midwest.social 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just call it an urban hike. It helps that one of the neighborhoods in my city is up a huge hill, but I'd still call it a hike if I was out walking all day.

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

City hikes + street photography is a fun little hobby

[–] ProgAimerGirl@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

if you put on boots and deliberately avoid sidewalks in favor of the grass next to the sidewalk then it's a wilderness hike by legal definition

[–] Des@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

everything i do is a hike. then again i nearly always have my daypack, only wear hiking gear and shoes, look like a standard "lesbian of the trail"

but legit if you add like 5kg or more of crap and are on (mostly) uneven terrain you are hiking. mostly because you're burning way more calories

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

in my mind it becomes a hike if you bring along provisions, if you don't it's just a walk

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

I tried but my partner said no it's just a walk we don't need to bring a backpack and water kitty-cri-screm

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Where I am a hike has to be in the mountains, anything else just wouldn’t sound right. But, maybe that’s a product of growing up by a huge mountain range that people frequently traverse recreationally. Hike to me implies a large change in elevation. Hiking up, hiking back down, etc.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

I think the nearest mountains to me are more than a day drive away haha

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

A hike is any walk that is longer than I want it to be.