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That's it that's the post. I feel like I've basically run out of anime to watch that isn't either slice of life, isekai, or something that will emotionally break me. I watched one series of fate like maybe 15 years ago and can't remember anything about it. I just know there's a lot of it and that's basically it's only appeal to me right now. Something I can watch for a few months.

Is there something else that is long that I should go watch instead or is Fate worth watching.

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[–] Scraft161@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 7 months ago

Fate is really solid if you like urban fantasy, just know that with many things regarding visual novel adaptations the anime cuts out a lot of stuff which does change context.

As for watch order: start with stay night (Unlimited Blade Works, then Heavens Feel) and only after should you watch zero as it is written in a way that it expects you to have stay night as context. After zero it's largely just a pick what you want to watch although it's recommended you also watch Deens Fate route adaptation as it covers some stuff of the route you might want to have.

If you want the universe has a couple other stories that are loosely related and also worth a shot, these are Mahoutsukai no Yoru (Witch on the Holy Night), Kara no Kyoukai (The Garden of Sinners), and Tsukihime, all of them have or are getting some sort of anime adaptation which are worth watching (except tsukihime's which should be actively avoided unless you read the entire VN and have copious amounts of alcohol). You can really watch these in any order (even before fate) as they are only loosely related but fate is definitely the most popular of them all.

If you have any further questions feel free to ask me and I'll try my best to explain.

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Personally I'd say no.

You have to consider the highs and lows when deciding to embark on >20 hrs commitment to consume any particular media. I think the absolute high of the series is Carnival Phantasm, which is a joke slice of life OVA. It is legitimately fantastic.

But to enjoy Carnival Phantasm you have to understand Fate stories and Tsukihime. IMO, Fate never recovered from its origin of being a schlocky early 2000s visual novel with obligatory sex scenes. They awkwardly tied a critical in-story magic mechanic to sex, and the sex scenes are hilariously baaad and really out of place, until the 3rd timeline/storyline of Heaven Feel, where the themes are more mature, and even there it is still edgy. You generally have 3 options, 1. Just tank through the awkward and hilarious sex scenes. 2. Read the PG13 version, where they cuddle instead. But the cuddle version makes so much less sense in term or character relationship and growth compared to explicit sex version. 3. Just fast forward through the sex scene once you hear the sleazy porn music. You still suffer through the cons of (2) that you missed out on some genuine character development. And (4) skip the VN entirely, for anime adaptation, which is an adaptation of the PG13 VN, but there you still suffer the same caveats as some development in character relationship made less sense.

I'm not a prude or anything, but they never got around Fate's origin of being sleazy early 2000s VN. There's structural weakness around the storytelling, around the sex mechanic that they never patch up properly, and instead they build upwards onto spinoff games and multi-billion gacha game.

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

i think the vn is good, shirou is an all time dumb guy protagonist and i think nasu is good at doing all the big fantasy bullshit. but they asked about WATCHING fate and so they are locked in to 4 and don't have to worry about the sex, i guess minus the janky cg dragon during mana transfer rituals in the deen anime

i agree the sex is poorly done (though i'm willing to give the game the benefit of the doubt that at least a little of that is the translation being kinda stiff) and feels like an artifact of older styles of vn. like, i am not anti eroge, but fate is bad at the ero part

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Watch Kara no Kyoukai instead, it's superior Nasuverse material.

If you really really really like it, then maybe watch fate, but the DEEN adaptation is Deen, and the ufotable UBW, etc is cool, but I'm less into them than the VN

[–] NoYouLogOff@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Seconding this, I think the Nasuverse is interesting and the things I like about it are the things I like in cultivation fantasy. The things I mostly don't like about the Nasuverse is stuff like "What if magical historical/literary characters but anime were in a deathmatch?" I think the Fate entries I could bring myself to finish were carried by interesting characters (FS/N VN, Fate/Zero, and uhhh Fate Hollow Ataraxia VN).

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I did greatly enjoy Fate Zero back in the day when I watched it.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Poor lancer

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait until they make a new Fate route anime and then start with that

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're not going to make one bro people have been begging for one since forever.

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Nah, the Fate route is getting rewritten/updated, they're gonna adapt that