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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

This is actually how jaywalking became a crime

[–] Metaright@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regulate the market? What are you, some kind of communist?

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile, builds the largest highway network in the world, many even in cities; maintain shitload of free parking; also enforces minimum parking requirements, all at the expense of tax payer.

People without cars are literally forced to pay to make everyone's life worse.

FREEDOM!

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

When I found out about this after Climate Town's video on the subject, I was so furious!!!!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn’t most of that come from taxes on fuel?

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In some state, yes, if by "most" you mean "more than 50% of road expense is paid by toll and car related taxes".

But that is still a huge percentage not covered by tax for car users, requiring other foundings to cover them. The highest percentage paid by user tax and toll is not even 70% in all the U.S. states.

Not to mention many state dont even cover 50%; some only cover as low as 19% or even 12%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-20/mapping-how-u-s-states-pay-for-roads

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, we all benefit from the road system even if we ourselves don’t drive, so I guess it’s fair.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It depends, in a country where the road system makes sense, sure. In rural area where every road serves a purpose: connecting business to transport goods, sure.

But excessive roads in cities and suburbs? No. Many roads in city and suburbs of the U.S. should be closed for cars, and be bike, bus, and emergency vehicles only. Since cars either don't use them that much or just don't have good experience on them because of the congestions. This also saves road maintainance, enables a smoother experience in transport and emergency vehicles, controls emission, and encourage a health life style in general.

It is again about the right tools for the job. A loaded van to transport fruit to the local farmer's market, emergency vehicles, these are times where cars are the right tools. On the other hand, F150 is not the right tool to get a Mcdonald's drive through for one.

[–] ThickQuiveringTip@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More and more of these are coming into Australia. They carry extremely small dick vibes. They are fucking annoying how much road space they take up. It's comical watching them drive around a car park. My friend bought a RAM and his personality changed with it in that he actually belittles our cars and kind of acts like we are weak?! He works as a corporate job and has absolutely no need for such a car apart from helping his inferiority complex. Now I can't help but dislike anyone who has one of these.

[–] theplanlessman@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

They're popping up here in the UK too. Our winding pre-industrial roads really aren't big enough for these road tanks, they constantly get in the way. They're even too big for a lot of parking spaces, you see them spilling over all the time.

[–] Unholy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we need to give the children SUVs so they can fight back

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

IRL Rocket League let's go!

[–] DaveFuckinMorgan@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no idea why F-150's keep getting bigger. Do people really like that shit? Old trucks are so much better, from design to MPG.

[–] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think there's a huge percentage of truck drivers who never use their truck for truck stuff. It's simply a status symbol to them which is pathetic. And bigger equals better in their feeble minds.

I have a 13 yr old Tacoma and it's tiny compared to even the modern "small" trucks. When this thing finally dies, I have no idea what I'll get. I love the size of it though. Maybe a Ford Maverick, but those are on backorder for years I heard from several friends who tried to get one.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use my truck for hauling stuff and camping.

For hauling big is objectively better. Without a doubt.

And for camping it’s nice that I can sleep in the 6.5 foot bed of my truck with the camper on it, and also fit my camping supplies in the back seat of my full sized cab. I only put maybe 300 miles a month on it. So it’s not like I’m driving it as my primary. But yes, it’s huge.

Driving to the coast, pointing the back of my truck toward the ocean, and laying in the comfy queen sized bed with a roof and windows, reading a book, with my my wife is one of my favorite weekend activities. And having the instant privacy is very nice.

My other car is a tiny Honda. Which is great for everything else.

[–] Venomnik0@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Don't give any Republicans any ideas. They might consider this seriously.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago
[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are some minibuses that my local transit provider uses for suburban routes, the kind that's a bus cabin bolted to a modified Ford truck body or van. Something I noticed riding those buses is that the operator sits lower and has a smaller engine compartment up front obstructing their view than a lot of five-seater SUVs. Hell, some SUVs are nearly as wide and long as a minibus, just not as tall.

Also, those buses are operated by trained CDL drivers who are subject to regular examination and tracking of their performance by both the CDL issuer and the transit authority. Can you say the same for the average family SUV?

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ugh. my sister at one point had one of those H3's and gushed about how safe it made her feel for her and her children. Yeah safer for you!

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

At least it wasn't the H2! One of the worst vehicles I had to drive when it comes to visibility (second only to the F650) and I probably have driven a thousand different models in the 10 years I was a valet!

[–] Neato@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Trucks are commercial vehicles. You need them for towing, hauling and other construction related activities. License, permit and tax them as such. If you have a huge boat or RV you need to tow, get and pay for a permit. Have the taxes be based on mileage so the more they're used, the more expensive it is. We invented weigh stations to make trucks compensate for the additional strain they put on roads. Same for these trucks. That'll help prevent them from being daily drivers.

[–] CheeseBread@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recently moved to a state where there are so many giant vehicles, and I drive a compact car. The front of the hood of an f-150 is as tall as my entire car. I feel like I'm the closest to the ground out of all the cars on the highway. You see all these big trucks and SUVs having a hard time maneuvering in parking lots. Why do all these people need such giant vehicles? Gas is expensive enough in my little tiny car, is the worse mileage even worth it?

[–] BackBreaker909@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One thing that always strikes me is once you* notice how many giant ass vehicles are on the road...you can't unnotice it lol.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just gonna keep on posting this

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

meters

Ya lost all Americans.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Au contraire. We Americans think easily in both Imperial and SI. In terms of units we’re bilingual. It’s you 10-10-10 types whose brains have been scrambled by your over-easy conversions and estimates.

[–] JohnEdwa@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Directly regulating the size isn't the only possibility though, huge cars are really rare in the EU even though there isn't anything prohibiting you from buying them. You just won't fit anywhere with one if you do :)

[–] AgnosticMammal@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

Ahah love the pic u linked of one blocking a tram. The regulators would surely be on their ass for blocking stuff like that.

Sad thing is as these become more common they'll pressure the right people to change the infrastructure around their bigger cars.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Should be required by law that all new cars have Pedestrian crash avoidance mitigation (PCAM) systems. In the same way that seatbelts and rear cameras are required. Would be surprised if it’s nit required by 2030.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if I don't have a truck the size of a locomotive how will people know that I absolutely do not have a micropenis?

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not Redditors when they get to body shame people they disagree with.

[–] keenkeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Public transit bus don't have a front hood. It's easy to see the blind spots.

[–] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

The car manufacturers and the politicians they own beg to differ.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This arms race applies to the vehicles themselves, too. Gotta get a big enough truck so I can see the road around traffic!

[–] lazyslacker@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Literally people feel safer in larger vehicles because of all of the large vehicles on the road. It's a positive feedback loop