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I admit I do love it when Trump gets trolled.

(Weirdly, the post title didn't match the headline in the actual link, but the version Lemmy let me click on to make the title works better anyway.)

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[–] hate2bme@lemmy.world 136 points 1 week ago (6 children)

He will not feel any pressure to release his. He won't do it. Everyone knows he won't.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But his repeated bullshit excuses will be fun to watch.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This right here is the problem, why he gets favorable treatment by the media, why he's the Republican figurehead. He's "fun to watch".

Here's what will happen: Harris will release her clean bill of health, he'll deny their veracity, he may then make an unsubstantiated boast about his own health, he may then also call into question the qualifications of Harris' doctor, he may then close with some sort of jingoistic non sequitur, or some nugget of misogyny. He will do these things in an almost robotically simplified way, that is at once instantly digestible and yet difficult to directly quote without editing. If anything he says proves the least bit problematic, Steven Cheung will claim that this editing proves malicious intent by the media, and that Trump was unfairly taken out of context. Meanwhile his thralls will either ignore the whole interval, or accept Cheung's version of events and redouble their support of a man who is not only unqualified, but it's actively a national liability. This will register surprise, shock, anger, any number of strong emotions, and viewership/readership will keep coming back, generating impressions and ad revenue, desperate for the new episode, to see what happens next, as if it were a show on HBO and not real life.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's "fun to watch" when he's being a dipshit. Not when he's being a Nazi.

But I would like to borrow your crystal ball for next week's Lotto numbers please.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even when he's "a dipshit", the attention he garners legitamizes him as a candidate. Attention is the whole game. The Michael Jordan of "no bad publicity." The entertainment you describe is just a different form of rubbernecking. And Trump attracts droves by regularly providing a new car accident to gawk at; and doing so on a fairly steady, news cycle friendly basis.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (11 children)

You can't legitimize a legitimate candidate any more than he's already been legitimized.

Expecting people to never talk about one of the two people who have a chance at being president next year within a month of election day is a bit silly.

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But how little his fans care that he's full of bullshit will be terrifying to watch.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

His fans are, at most, 30% of the country. It's the rest of the voters I worry about.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They weren't that fun the first time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess I take my humor out of this election where I can.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"As the healthiest person… as the healthiest American… there is no one healthier than me… as the healthiest, there is no need to release these… my medical records are stellar… so perfect. I'm great. These records are so great, there you have it. I'm perfectly… yes… perfectly healthy." - Trump

Well, I tried. I feel that it lacks some attacks to their opponent, but I can't dumb myself down enough to do more than that.

[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here I'll help

"The best records... great memory.. the best... doctors claim to not have seen a memory like mine... beyond measure... they can't even measure it ladies and gentlemen.. even better than my opponent Sleepy Joe... I defeated Joe in 2020... complete landslide... I'll beat him in 2024."

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

still too coherent

"You know they asked me to— my medical records... they asked for them. The medical records. Can you believe this? The doctors, and believe me, I know doctors — they used to have the cures, were allowed to, you know, they just drank it. You could, any street corner, with malt, just go in. Hello Bob, you know. Beautiful. Believe me, they'd say Mr President, Sir, Mr President, you have the best blood pressure. So strong, beautiful, Mr President but we've been piled on with Iran. They don't allow the helicopters any more, and the coats? You can't. Any day, they said, any day you can have it for free, and I was smart, I got the 5 cents back. That's how they get you. But with Iran. So now the doctors say there's no need to have blood pressure any more. They said they never need to check again. And that's why you can't any more. Which is good. You know, not the Iran thing, that's sad."

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago

Didn't he have a weirdo doctor release a letter in 2020 saying he was in the best form ever?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago

Seriously... It's like these people never learn. He's an obstinate child and will never do what he doesn't want to do unless compelled by the courts.

...and that's actually a thing that his cult loves.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

People are saying.

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[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He won't or he'll release some fake bs. Nobody voting for Trump will care either way. It's still a good move because it's something that gets a headline and coverage that highlights a positive aspect of Harris.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Also might cause Trump to publicly obsess over it which certainly doesn’t help him in any way

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump will just call it fake news and then say his doctors said he is the best health anyone has ever seen

And they'll believe it because it's a cult

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

his medical records are under audit

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The FDA can’t believe what they’re seeing. They say mister President, we’ve never seen anything as great as your health all over. We need to study this to help America!

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would they settle for a letter from a weirdo saying he's the bigliest, healthliest man to ever president?

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's sort of what he did while president. But Trump's pill slinger, who was likely Trump's contact to the Oath Keepers, got himself elected to Congress. And boy has he been a shitbag ever since. Not that he wasn't a shitbag before as well.

But sure, there's probably another Doctor Nick level jackass out there who will vouch for Trump.

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ugh I'm afraid I'd catch something from Trump's medical records.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You'll be okay. He told Howard Stern that surviving the 70s without an STD was his "personal Vietnam" (so he didn't need to actually go there) and also, as the owner of a chiweenie*, I can tell you that (thankfully) stupid is not contagious.

*The parts of that page that says they're intelligent and easy to train are lies.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Then again, he submitted a letter from ‘his doctor’ in 2016 that said he tested positive for everything, so it may be best to steer clear.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

stupid may not spread across species very easily, but it is highly contagious between humans.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And dogs. Stupid humans make their regular dogs stupid too. (Some dogs aren't blessed with much of that clever wild brain to begin with, I know. I like chocolate labs anyway.)

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You could release a doctor's report saying Trump is going to die in 6 months and his plan is to install an unelected leader when he dies and his supporters would just cheer it

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (15 children)

If he only needed his supporters to win, he would have won in 2020. I have no idea why people aren't aware of that now.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People voted against however things were because of the pandemic. Trump was in charge, so he caught the general dissatfication with everything.

Now the sting of inflation last year likely has a lot of those same people again upset at how things are and vote for change again, whoever it will be.

Also, 2020 was the most accessible election in history, with so much flexibility for remote voting and so many people not stuck at work unable to find time to vote. The gop has been changing that, locking down absentee voting more, successfully getting voting id laws passed, and reducing early voting sites and hours. People are too busy working at their workplace again, and access to voting is reduced.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I mean, the last time he did they were obviously false. He'll just do the same this time. No way he doesn't take meds for cholesterol, heart disease, or any of the other conditions that are extremely common with his age and diet.

[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Harris campaign just released this in response to his visit to Detroit. It's awesome.

https://youtu.be/BPgQp2VuZwQ?si=aQC1bWufO53ER49B

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Nice. They released a video of Trump trying to back out of the debate with her with clucking chicken noises. And suddenly he agreed to the debate. And then he was trolled during the debate and went nuts. And people here say trolling him has no effect.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] ravhall@discuss.online 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, can’t wait to see what STDs the orange man has.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You even heard of Pokémon?

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This has been tried many times before unfortunately. He's not going to release his medical information. The fact that it would have his actual height alone is enough reason for the narcissist to literally die before letting it come out.

So much of the authoritarian strong man mystique is the projection of strength and virility. One of the few things that could actually weaken his control over his supporters would be a medical report saying he's an average height male that is almost 80 and in below average health.

If that somehow came out without his permission, he, his campaign, and his most loyal operatives would invest tremendous effort in burying, denying, and obfuscating those facts. His followers would latch onto anything that would allow them to comfortably deny that.

Beyond the strong man thing, there is also an entire cohort of aging, white boomer men that have created a belief in their own worth, health, vitality, and importance through "seeing themselves" in Trump. He has become a central, dominant element of their personal identity and self image. If something made Trump's age, mental incompetence, and frailty undeniable, that entire cohort would have a complete mental and emotional breakdown. They would realize they're old, no longer central in culture, facing death, and have left a trail of wreckage where their friends and family used to be.

I'm not exaggerating when I say, I think there would be a dramatic increase in geriatric suicides.

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