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[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I looked this up because it sounded so made up but apparently it's real

He arrived in Moscow in September 1935 and stayed “in the rooms which Napoleon had in 1812.” There he met with Sophia Janovskaya, professor of mathematical logic, who helped secure him offers to teach philosophy at Kazan or Moscow University. He was also shown around Leningrad, where his appeals to get manual work were rejected by party officials. It became apparent that outside of a teaching position, there would be no work for him.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly? Sad turn of events in history. I'm not trying to "Great Man Theory" this, but Wittgenstein's enduring legacy in Philosophy and Linguistics is incredible. Someon like that "defecting" to the USSR might have attracted others due to his sheer brilliance if nothing else, and resulted in a remarkably different Soviet intellectual climate. I treasure the Soviet Unions achievements in science and political struggle, but you know, critical support and all. I wonder if a school of truly international socialist intellectuals would have influenced the shape of history in a positive way. Maybe it would be doomed to fail, but what might have been if they'd moved there and thrived? What would the West look like if it lost some of it's best the other direction? Would left-anti-communism have become such a force if the people propagating it had actually been there to see the reality, or help construct an alternative series of events? Just interesting to think about.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago

At least USSR got Stefan Cohn-Vossen. Sadly, he contracted pneumonia after a couple of years and died soon, but he made a significant contribution to the formation of Soviet school of geometry.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

From each their ability, to each their needs

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 76 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago

lmao it actually happened

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The face of a guy who deeply regrets learning because now people ask him things

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

As someone in academia I do occasionally dream of moving to a far off land and farming

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As someone who briefly did research, then a bs office job at an ngo with cool values, and then worked waiting tables, I jumped at the chance of getting into research again. Working tables again was literal hell for my autistic ass.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I have also worked tables. I am also autistic. It's like a very personal torture.

I realized I really enjoy computer jobs, even if they have their own bs to deal with.

[–] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

Yep, I worked as a machinist and welder during undergrad to pay for University. I liked that job way better than being a professional scientist.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

u are sentenced to teaching and researching stalin-heart

[–] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I basically do manual labor for a living and regularly think about how much more I'd hate my life if I had to sit in an office dealing with bullshit all day, idk how yall do it honestly

[–] regul@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

Cause you only deal with bullshit for like two hours a day. The rest of the day is for shitposting or whatever.

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As someone in tech, I frequently dream of a fantasized life being a berry picker in a hunter-gatherer society.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

fucking-off-to-the-woods-pilled

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As someone who does manual labor... I often dream of an office job.

Trust me it sucks.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm factory labor and I really like it!

... as long as the fucking machines work and the computers work and the label system works and the kanban system works and...

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I used to work in production and it fucking sucked. Dirty, no AC, had to hold heavy shit in weird positions.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't mind getting dirty or physical exertion much, but yeah, the heat is pretty awful. I walk about three miles a night carrying metal car parts while wearing PPE, in the summer it gets pretty brutal.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah the actual like, lifting part is generally fine. It's actually all the walking on concrete and the sweating like a hog that really takes it out of me.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Drinking between half to one gallon of water every night helps a lot, and I regularly replace my shoe inserts to stay comfy. I dunno, I really do like it (as long as I don't have to deal with bullshit (I always do))

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There’s better and worse production jobs. I like small scale production of high value machines, far more laid back than mass production lines. I basically sit around all day putting stuff together and it’s the most enjoyable work I’ve found so far. The place I work now makes optics based products for climate research and it’s super laid back.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn you need anyone there?

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Unfortunately not, but I’ll let you know if that changes!

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've done it all. It can suck either way. The important thing is to not get injured, which can easily happen if you get a job that's too sedentary.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean yeah it all sucks, but honestly I'm just tired of my feet hurting.

Working out and stretching have done way more wonders for me than manual labor has, in fact working out made doing manual labor easier for me, not even particularly intense work outs either. I always tell people, manual labor =/= exercise, one can compliment the other but they're two very different things.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same here. I have to get in at least a light workout every day or else I do start to get little work injuries. Ironically, I didn't actually hurt my back until I got a desk job. Turns out I still have to workout or work will destroy my body.

I stretch almost every day now. Learning how to squat properly also took tons of stress off my back.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

As someone who used to do manual labor and now has an office job try to get out quick your back will thank you.

[–] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

wish i was smart enough to do research

cri

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Didn't c/UlyssesT actually do that or am I mixing my hexbear lore up.

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago

The philosophers yearn for the mines.

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] courier8377@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

Ok im high but if we take the original idea of the meme as a conceptual equivalent to the gene, these are both expressions of the same meme, only he had the chance to go live it and we only post about it. The meme has been transmitted with minor mutations to us.

Lol ignore this rambling

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

THE INTELLECTUALS YEARN FOR THE MINES

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

The coal mining enjoyer. He’s real.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

common USSR W

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Common Wittgenstein w

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Shittgenstein kelly