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The meat of the article is after

The research that’s raising eyebrows comes from Japan, Taiwan and Australia.

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[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 31 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it any worse for them than soda?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 31 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I have a list but it'll take a while to go through it all

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 15 points 4 weeks ago

I promise I've been good. Except for that one time. But that doesn't count. I want a Tonka Dumptr— Oh. I never mind. I thought you were somebody else.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 30 points 4 weeks ago

Paying a guy $30 to buy you $60 of Clausthaler and Cranberry juice mixed with mint so-true

[–] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 29 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

In Taiwan, where the legal drinking age is 18, high schoolers who said they drank nonalcoholic beverages were more likely than those who didn’t to express an intention to drink alcohol.

This article seems to me to be completely reversing correlation and causation. Isn't it far more likely that young people who are more interested in drinking alcohol are more likely to drink non alcoholic beer etc?

[–] LodeMike 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You're correct. It's so easy to lie with statistics that I now start with the impression that ~~it's~~ any new statistic is an outright lie.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Bowdring says there’s emerging evidence that nonalcoholic beverages may prime kids to switch to the real thing.

From the emerging evidence cited

However, concerns that non-alcoholic beverage use would lead to increased alcohol use were not supported because alcohol flavoured non-alcoholic beverage consumption usually started after adolescents began consuming alcohol.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 21 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, but if you ignore that part it gives you something new to criminalize.

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 27 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

huh, in my country this is already the law. given our culture of drinking, i really don't think it works lol. like, if a kid is bothering to try to get ahold of non-alchoholic beer they're already having that behaviour modeled to them and thats the part that actually matters

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Surely hardline enforcement and locking people up will work this time around! Why bother addressing systemic issues when you can just arrest and brutalize teenagers?

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it would do more to age restrict energy drinks with crazy high amounts of caffeine.

If kids want the taste of beer without the alcohol, I say let 'em

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 4 weeks ago

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[–] mushroom@hexbear.net 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

every time i've bought NA beers in the US i've been carded. figured this was already the law

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago

You also need an ID for cooking wine.

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't know shit about this, no investigation so don't put stock into my opinion, but my gut tells me the demand for non-alcoholic drinks comes from people who would otherwise be seeking out alcohol in the first place

[–] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 4 points 4 weeks ago

Also kids who go somewhere with their parents and want something fancy (for the mocktails anyway).

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago

It could also diminish the mystique and sense of transgression surrounding alcohol amongst teens.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 weeks ago

I love "facts based journalism"!!!! I love it when a single shoddy research paper becomes hard evidence of a proven fact to support a state agenda!!!

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 5 points 4 weeks ago