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A little short for a starship, isn't he?

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[–] Stamets@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You'd be stacking people on one another for sure. However the tight quarters then gives creedence to stuff like Cerritos and Voyager not having thick enough walls/doors to dampen sound. Then Enterprise-D is a whole different beast and it makes no sense for the opposite reason. It's too damn big with not enough crew. You'd have people working in their own section never meeting another soul during their whole day.

But that brings me to something else (because I have severely unmedicated ADHD and I apologize). Picard Season 3 got rapped for having the Titans bridge be really dark all the time. The lighting of the whole ship was way darker. Surprisingly I actually liked that. It felt like they were on a submarine or some small contained vessel, just then against the harshness of what was outside. That submarine quality really should be used in more shows. I know TOS had random people walking around the corridors (like the famous example of a dude who was turning an invisible valve on a wall) but I like those tight spaces.

Oh and to prove the ADHD? The Crossfield class is 900m long. Roughly. I mean she's 2/3rds nacelle but still.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's some more perspective. The aircraft carrier pictured apparently carries almost 2000 people.

[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's not even a big carrier either. American supercarriers between the flight crews, the ship crews, the marine contingent and everything else can fit up to SIX THOUSAND people.

There's no need for anyone on the Cerritos to sleep in the fucking hallways. That's like "we live on a literal submarine" level of privacy. It's beyond idiotic. The Cali class are MASSIVE. There's no need for anyone to be living in the hallways like that.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, I always assumed it was for comedic effect.

[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is that they want to eat their cake and have it to when it comes to being a comedic show that parodies Trek, but also a serious part of the Trek canon.

Sometimes it works, like with the SNW crossover episode, or the ludicrous gambit to clear the captain's name when she's being framed for blowing up Planet Packled. Other times, like with the stupid koala or the people sleeping in the corridors it goes beyond what makes sense in-universe and becomes stupid for an out-of-universe joke.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It might seem like that at first glance, but every Star Trek show has had episodes more absurd than even the silliest Lower Decks one.

[–] VindictiveJudge@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, the Enterprise has about the volume of an aircraft carrier, but only a fraction of the crew. By modern standards it is downright roomy.

[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And it also isn't carrying 100 fighter planes.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voyager was carrying infinite shuttles, so it's not that out there

[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Prodigy also showed us that they can replicate a new shuttle in like 30 seconds.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The only canon animated shows are Lower Decks and the original Animated Series.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, we were talking about the Connie. Galaxy class is like 20x the volume of a CVN.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That was a fascinating video!

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Picard Season 3 got rapped for having the Titans bridge be really dark all the time.

Have these people not seen The Motion Picture? The bridge was so dark in that movie, it doesn’t even seem like they’re on the Enterprise. At least the Titan is a different ship, AND you still get to see the Enterprise with its bright lighting in the same show.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speaking of submarines, SNW s1e4 Memento Mori does a great job with the "flying blind" trope. They even use the "depth charge" trick.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You even get to hear sonar pings. It was amazing as a submarine movie fan.