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I'm gonna miss the old design. The new one looks like someone smashed it with a looney tunes hammer.
Looks aside, I'll bet visibility is incredible, at least from the front. And I think that at least my mail carrier will appreciate having air conditioning. We still have a lot of the old LLV's here and it was 105 and humid all summer.
Functionally it's amazing. Totally with you.
Being able to stand in the back, low step deck, ac/heat! Visibility. And electric for the most part. our couriers deserve it.
Being able to stand up inside the vehicle is another huge benefit. And a bunch of them are going to be electric.
Yeah, no doubt it's a significant upgrade, the old vehicle's silhouette is just really iconic to me.
For context, this is the current design, the Grumman LLV:
And this is the new 2024 redesign, the Oshkosh NGDV:
New design is goofy but I kinda love it, it looks like a cartoon. Also it just screams functionality, the driver can see so much out of that massive windshield
Can it hit 45 without flipping over the bumper?
Yes, but at 45 mph it starts playing the sound from Scooby Doo when Shaggy and Scooby start running away from the bad guy
Old looks cheap to make, new looks cheap and safe to operate, shows, imo, a positive trend.
Yes, the ones out there, so far, are reportedly a hit amongst mail carriers
I'm not surprised. I drive an EV as a delivery vehicle, and it's pretty much the perfect use case for an EV. No engine that needs to be idles while you are out making deliveries, and regenerative breaking is very useful due to the constant stop and go
The old design looks like it was cobbled together by Elon Musk in his garage.
It's the exact opposite of something Musk would make. Every aspect of the old LLV was designed to be used. Every aspect designed for longevity. If the steering wheels aren't coming off of the Tesla cars, the metal cover is coming off of the Cybertruck's footpedal.
I was mostly referring to the design mostly consisting of flat metal plates, something that hasn't been common in cars or even very sturdy, long-lived work vehicles, pretty much ever since the WW2 era of vehicle design (e.g. 1948 Unimog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimog )
The old model was named the Long Life Vehicle (LLV) for a reason. Ugly for sure, but rock sold. Designed in an era when the main concern was to last 6 digits on the odometer, powered by the iron duke engine. Moderately efficient at the time of its design in the late 70s, but absolutely dependable.
I never had a problem with the new, though admittedly goofy, design until I saw this picture. The ground clearance on that looks pretty low. Might just be photo angles tho. Anyone have any videos of these being tested out? Curious how they handle on dirt roads. I'm sure the did factor that into account, just curious is all.