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Everything about Lemmy; bugs, gripes, praises, and advocacy.

For discussion about the lemmy.ml instance, go to !meta@lemmy.ml.

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This is mostly me just typing into the void, but I noticed that my 1,000th post was coming up and decided to do something to commemorate it.

I first joined Lemmy in Janurary 2021, before the June 2023 craze. Lemmy was a much different place back then, practically a ghost town. Eventually, I only used Lemmy for a few months, then reluctantly went back to lurking Reddit.

Fast forward to June 2023, with Reddit announcing their new API changes. People were furious, and you all decided that the best course of action was to move to an open-source, federated Reddit alternative. You all chose wisely.

It took a while, but very soon, Lemmy became (mostly) what Reddit lost, and it's all thanks to you guys! A lot has happened in the past 14 months, with me starting my weekly "disc market share" reports on !homevideo@feddit.uk and me somehow becoming one of the co-moderators of !movies@lemm.ee. So many posts, cross-posts, so many comments, and upvotes.

And now, I've reached my 1,000th Lemmy post. I never imagined that Lemmy would grow to become the second-most popular ActivityPub service! Thanks to the Lemmy devs and all the contributors and users that make this possible!

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Doing some server upgrade testing.

Time zone converter

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I'm logged in with my account on boost.

I am thinking of resetting my phone. I don't remember password.

I have tried resetting password multiple times, but not getting any email.

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Hello, I'm a community moderator and I noticed that my updates to the community sidebar constantly get cancelled. Is this a known bug?

More details:

  • I can save the new state and it displays the new state correctly, both from the community's instance and from mine, but it changes back to the previous state after some time, going from a few hours to several days.
  • I'm not 100% sure but it seems like the sidebar reverts to its previous state after I make a new post in the community.
  • The last time I needed to make a change was in March and it worked perfectly. I've been trying to make this one stick since October 10th.
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I apologize if this is not right to post here but im not sure where to go with this one as i havent really found an answer myself.

See, heres the thing, as yall surely know when i hit enter on a line once it will not work, it has to be two.

Is that intentional, if so why?

how does one disable that?

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cross-posted from: https://eventfrontier.com/post/150886

I'm pleased to announce the release of Echo for Lemmy! Echo is a Lemmy client for iPhone that I've been working on for a while and I'm excited to finally share it with you all.

Echo for Lemmy is a fully native iOS application built using fully native Apple SDKs. This means it feels right at home on your iPhone and is designed to be fast, efficient, and easy to use. No overhead from web views or cross-platform frameworks.

Here are some of the features available in Echo for Lemmy:

  • Connect with communities based on your interests.
  • Sort your feed by most active, trending posts, new posts, and many more.
  • Upvote and downvote posts & comments.
  • Powerful search experience to find the content you're looking for.
  • Create posts using share extension from any app on your device.
  • Bookmark posts to easily find later.
  • Fully native application with dark mode support & accessibility features.

Echo for Lemmy is available for free on the App Store, with subscription plans available for Echo+. You can download it here: Echo for Lemmy on the App Store.

You can also join the official Echo Lemmy community at [!echo@eventfrontier.com](/c/echo@eventfrontier.com).

I'm excited to hear feedback, suggestions, bug reports, and feature suggestions. Feel free to comment here, or create a new post! You can also reach out via email at support@rrainn.com.

This is only the beginning. Much more to come!


Download Echo for Lemmy: https://echo.rrainn.com/download/iphone

Echo Lemmy Community: !echo@eventfrontier.com

Echo Mastodon Profile: @echo@mstdn-social.com


Screenshot of Echo for Lemmy on an iPhone showing a list of posts in your home feed.

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Rather than communities being hosted by an instance, they should function like hashtags, where each instance hosts posts to that community that originate from their instance, and users viewing the community see the aggregate of all of these. Let me explain.

Currently, communities are created and hosted on a single instance, and are moderated by moderators on that instance. This is generally fine, but it has some undesirable effects:

  • Multiple communities exist for the same topics on different instances, which results in fractured discussions and duplicated posts (as people cross-post the same content to each of them).
  • One moderation team is responsible for all content on that community, meaning that if the moderation team is biased, they can effectively stifle discussion about certain topics.
  • If an instance goes down, even temporarily, all of its communities go down with it.
  • Larger instances tend to edge out similar communities on other instances, which just results in slow consolidation into e.g. lemmy.ml and lemmy.world. This, in turn, puts more strain on their servers and can have performance impact.

I'm proposing a new way of handling this:

  • Rather than visiting a specific community, e.g. worldnews@lemmy.world, you could simply visit the community name, like a hashtag. This is, functionally, the same as visiting that community on your own local instance: [yourinstance]/c/worldnews
    • You'd see posts from all instances (that your instance is aware of), from their individual /worldnews communities, in a single feed.
    • If you create a new post, it would originate from your instance (which effectively would create that community on your instance, if it didn't previously exist).
    • Other users on other instances would, similarly, see your post in their feed for that "meta community".
  • Moderation is handled by each instance's version of that community separately.
    • An instance's moderators have full moderation rights over all posts, but those moderator actions only apply to that instance's view of the community.
      • If a post that was posted on lemmy.ml is deleted by a moderator on e.g. lemmy.world, a user viewing the community from lemmy.ml could still see it (unless their moderators had also deleted the post).
      • If a post is deleted by moderators on the instance it was created on, it is effectively deleted for everyone, regardless of instance.
      • This applies to all moderator actions. Banning a user from a community stops them from posting to that instance's version of the community, and stops their posts from showing up to users viewing the community through that instance.
      • Instances with different worldviews and posting guidelines can co-exist; moderators can curate the view that appears to users on their instance. A user who disagreed with moderator actions could view the community via a different instance instead.
  • Users could still visit the community through another instance, as we do now - in this case, [yourinstance]/c/worldnews@lemmy.world, for example.
    • In this case, you'd see lemmy.world's "view" of the community, including all of their moderator actions.

The benefit is that communities become decentralized, which is more in line with (my understanding of) the purpose of the fediverse. It stops an instance from becoming large enough to direct discussion on a topic, stops community fragmentation due to multiple versions of the community existing across multiple instances, and makes it easier for smaller communities to pop up (since discoverability is easier - you don't have to know where a community is hosted, you just need to know the community name, or be able to reasonably guess it. You don't need to know that a community for e.g. linux exists or where it is, you just need to visit [yourinstance]/c/linux and you'll see posts.

If an instance wanted to have their own personal version of a community, they could either use a different tag (e.g. world_news instead of worldnews), or, one could choose to view only local posts.

Go ahead, tear me apart and tell me why this is a terrible idea.

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For admins and moderators, keeping the comment counts including bot comments visible (especially in a moderators' own communities) may be valuable, but not sure if it's all that valuable for ordinary users.

Would it be possible to make it so bot comments don't add to the counts for regular users, or at least for those that have disabled the display of bot posts/comments? As-is seeing an indication of a comment for a post only for it to turn out to be a bot is slightly disappointing at best, and mildly confusing at worst when their display has been disabled.

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It's a great feature while browsing All/Subscribed/Local, but some people (including me) seem to think this can be confusing/annoying while browsing a specific community directly.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/2104

Any thoughts on this?

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I first became aware of this about 4 months ago.

GitHub issue is 3069:

It would be awesome if we could follow a post to be alerted of new comments added.

As we are at it, why stop with posts? I'd suggest also having such alerts with comment sub-trees would be nice.

I was in a thread in !fediverse@lemmy.world earlier today, and it seems like there is still interest in this feature.

Last I heard, it seemed like progress on this feature is dependent on fixing an SQL Paging and filtering issue.

Any progress on this? Anything we can do to expedite the development of this feature?

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

We're testing some beta's for the upcoming release, and it had some performance issues, so I had to downgrade and restore from a backup.

We do this testing here so other instances don't have to, and so we can find any bugs before a release. Again, this is my bad, I apologize.

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Watch out for that sub. The mods over there don't seem to be in good faith and remove any content they don't like which isn't direct and blatant hate toward religion. If you want to engage in any serious atheist or religious discussion i suggest you to avoid it.

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I've got 500+ posts and don't wanna sift through em. Is there a way for me to search for keywords in my profile only. Or filter communities?

On android.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Boomkop3@reddthat.com to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

This should be a pretty basic feature, just not having a private message be there anymore. But for some reason that does not work here?

I tried searching for this. I found a year old open issue on GitHub and some reddit users complaining about this very issue.

Talking with some people in the comments here, it seems like some people don't understand that one might not want a message to be in their face. Or the idea that just because something could be recovered doesn't mean we should treat it as an absolute

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Probably a hot take for everybody who just wants a drop-in replacement for Reddit, but I think a new platform needs to take the opportunity to improve over what's gone before.

So what I'm proposing is a more granular approach to curating one's feed on an individual user level, much like both Mastodon and apps for that platform offer (I'm going to use Tusky as an example because I've used that for a while and know its features fairly well).

Imagine a filter list where you could block specific terms, source URLs or other. No more irrelevant mentions of whatever annoys the hell out of you when you open /all. Along with your individual block list, limited as that is, it would help you as a user to home in on what matters to you.

Might this create filter bubbles? Yes, but if it's implemented on a per user level it won't affect other users' feeds. The "bubble" is a one-person act. In my experience /all on both Reddit and Lemmy suffers from people trying to curate it to their personal liking with downvotes, which just creates a monoculture.

Personally, I think free text filters would help solve that problem, and might aid users in engaging with their preferred communities. Suggestions, ideas?

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So you could subscribe communities to hashtags and have it displays toots and pictures from that hashtag in the Lemmy UI

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I looked around and struggled to find out what it does?

My guess would be that it notifies you of when new posts are made to communities you subscribe to. But that sounds like a lot, so I'm really not sure.

Otherwise, is it me or does the wording here not speak for itself?

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Generally, the lens I've come to criticise any/all fediverse projects is how well they foster community building. One reason why I like and "advocate" for the lemmy/threadiverse side of things is precisely because of this and how the centrality of the community/sub/group is a good way of organising social media (IMO).

Also, because of that, I recently came to be skeptical of the effects that the "All" feed can have. I didn't even realise that people relied mostly on the All feed until recently.

I think I've reached the point now of being against it (at least tentatively). I know, it's a staple and there's no way it's going away. And I know it's useful.

But thinking about the feature set, through the community building lens, I think it'd be fair to say that things are out of balance: they don't promote community building enough while also providing the All feed which dissolves community building.

Not really a criticism of the developers ... AFAIU, the All feed is easier to implement than any other community building feature ... and it's expected from reddit (though it isn't normal on forums AFAICT, which is maybe worth considering for anyone happy to reassess what about reddit is retained and what isn't).

But still, I can imagine a platform that is more focused on communities:

  • Community explorer tool built in.
    • Could even be a substitute for an All feed ... where you can browse through various communities you don't know about and see what they've posted recently
  • Multi-communities (long time coming by now for many I'd say)
    • Could even be part of the community explorer tool where you can create on-the-fly multi-communities to see their posts in a temporary feed
  • Private and local only communities (already here on lemmy and coming for private communities)
  • Post visibility options for Public communities (IE, posts that opt-in private)
  • More flexible notifications for various things/events that happen within a community
  • Wikis
  • Chat interface
    • I'm thinking this is pretty viable given that Lemmy used to use a web-socket auto-updating design ... add that to the flat chat view and you've got a chat room. There are resource issues, so limiting them to one per community or 6hrs per week per community or something would probably be necessary.

A possibly interesting and frustrating aspect of all of these suggestions/ideas above is I can see their federation being problematic or difficult ... which raises the issue of whether there's serious tension between platform design and protocol capabilities.

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I guess I'm not the only one that happens to this, I follow communities with the same theme in different instances, it's not unusual then to see the same link sent by the same person in both, not a crosspost, the same link sent separately. ¿Is there any, let's say, correct protocol on how to interact with this? You know, do I vote for both? One positive and the other I ignore? What if I want to comment? Do I make the same comment on both?

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instead of

image: postgres:16-alpine

use

image: pgautoupgrade/pgautoupgrade:16-alpine

Then all the upgrade instructions of backup->update->import backups go away and all you need to do is restart the docker container. (still keep backups though!)

Reference: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4892/files

Since that pull request was merged, this will simplify future updates like 0.19.6 or 0.20.0

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by taaz@biglemmowski.win to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

If you are using https://github.com/wereii/lemmy-thumbnail-cleaner please stop and disable it as soon as possible.

We have found a security issue that allows any user to make LTC delete any locally hosted image.

I will be posting more details soon and editing this to include the information.

E: More information here https://github.com/wereii/lemmy-thumbnail-cleaner/issues/10

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Is it maybe planned to be able to set a custom tag for a community instead of one pulled from the url? I reckon there are many communities where this would make more sense.

Like the community i am moderating is c/bicycle_touring, but i think #biketouring and #bikepacking are the hashtags that are being used on mastodon for this stuff.

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

EDIT: Looked a little deeper/better on GitHub and found this issue, #4865 which is likely the most related issue, and it seems the devs are aware.

It also seems to be a recent v19.5 -ish issue too from some of the comments there


I seem to be encountering what may be a bug with pinning/featuring posts ... interested if anyone's got similar/counter experiences

The issue is that the pinning of a post doesn't get federated correctly.

The conditions, AFAICT are:

  • Post originates from a "federated instance" (IE, an instance other than the community's home instance)
  • The mod action of pinning is also done by a moderator on a "federated instance"
  • Lemmy versions 19.4 or greater (much more tentative, but from a brief perusal, it seems true)

The effect seems to be:

  • The pinning works fine on the "home instance" of the community
  • But federation breaks in two slightly different ways:
    • No pinning occurs
    • If a mod on a "federated instance" tries to pin, after an initially failed federation of "pinning", it will succeed on the federated instance only temporarily

The last dynamic is hopefully a clue to what could be happening (sounds like some queued tasks colliding in an incorrect way)

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I input my password.

It refuses to log me in. Says 'Passwords must be between 10 and 60 characters'

I delete the last few characters. Now it lets me log in.

no bueno

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