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Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn't the first break. Big social is having problems, it's the natural course of things.
This is a great point!
For me, they'd have to
- Replace /u/spez
- Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
- Open-source significant parts of their platform.
I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.
Did he get caught editing comments again? And the shadowbanning?
Not recently... I'm just completely out trust and benefit of the doubt based on the various controversies and where their (Tencent) money is coming from.
The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.
Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.
Of course, there will be people who just don't care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don't care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don't moderate any subreddits, and don't follow the Internet news.
I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.
The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.
Link? That's not good news :/
I think that's from his AMA response
Not just that, they also announced their intent to turn reddit into an even more ad-infested hellhole: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads
This is the future of reddit in the official app everyone: https://www.redditinc.com/assets/images/site/image2.gif
The redditinc thing is freaking hilarious.
I wouldn't care. The irreversable damage is done.
Reddit's handling of the API change criticisms showed me how little they care about the community that keeps them afloat. The way the CEO's AMA pretty much ignored all criticism of the API changes (including comments asking why the new price is so extortionately expensive) whilst lying about Apollo's developer threatening them.... They've shown their real colours.
I don't want to use a platform prioritising profits above everything else. I used Reddit for over a decade and they've eradicated all trust I had in them within a few days.
Reddit as a company have clearly demonstrated their philosophy as a social media platform is make money. Even if they reverse the decision, at this point it'd clearly be a PR move to save their sinking reputation rather than coming from a place of genuine constructive dialogue.
Its a shame, but at the same time I'm excited to see where things go from here. Reddit's always had a bit of a quality control problem due to its sheer volume of content. Maybe this mass exodus will lead to a replacement platform with a more refined, engaged userbase. I'm looking forward to something better emerging from these ashes.
Personally, I don't see myself going back. I'll just chill with my new community here.
Same
Nope. Everyone makes mistakes. But you don't go full Armageddon on the people whose blood, sweat & tears built you up from diddly, and then say "oopsie." It don't work like that, Spez. Have fun with your IPO.
Well said - my patience ran out about 6 or 7 "mistakes" ago. I'm never going back.
They've already posted that they're going to "double down" on ads on their platform and they are not going to back down on the API rules: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads
I’ve returned to Reddit from Lemmy in the past, but this time it’s different. There are enough people posting content here now that it feels like a community (and not just a few nerds hoping it will take off). Never thought I’d say this but, thanks Spez for creating such a vibrant community.
For me at this point I think Steve Huffman would need to step down along with a step back of their changes. I can't trust the platform given his track record.
I don't think I'll go back except for niche content/communities I don't expect to see here for a while.
I've fully committed to replacing reddit in my life, I'm trying to be active here and pointing people to Lemmy when I can. Reddit has made it clear they dont care about users. they get content for free, moderation for free, etc. They pissed on their base and deserve a mass exodus. I just hope people follow through.
use both lemmy and reddit
It wouldn't matter at all, because it's just a matter of time before they implement such features and don't back down.
They'll just continue shit-testing us until the blowback isn't enormous if they go this route.
I think if this works out I may switch permanently if they back out. If not I will only use Reddit as the occasional info lookup and use this as my “social media”
I will admit that I'd keep RiF on my phone just to doomscroll in airports and whatnot. Though I think I'm going to stop my desktop use (90% of my use) of Reddit regardless. The writing is on the wall for old.reddit.
I'll use both then. reddit is still unparalleled for support, simply because of its sheer size
Been on reddit since 2010 and over the years I've gotten less and less interested and the only subs I still had interest in were the niche fashion communities.
I'm gonna be the change I want to see and created the lemmy community for one of my favorite brands (Supreme) and over time other ones will fill out the space. I'm also gonna join a patreon discord for better fashion discussion than the reddit subs anyway and was something I'd been wanting to do anyway before the recent events.
With those as a replacement I should be fine. I'm also way more excited about investing into an exciting new community with lemmy that reminds me of the early reddit days. Reddit will only continue to get worse as it gets more corporate and terrible in the same way Facebook and other platforms went downhill over the years. Lemmy is on the come up
I don't intend to go back nearly as much as before, even if the changes are reverted (unlikely, imo). A lot of the aspects of Reddit that I didn't like - but tolerated - are generally not found here, at least so far. While Lemmy still leaves things to be desired, it just feels better to engage with.
However, I may still add " reddit" to the end of a search query to avoid all the bloat articles that crop up in a search. There's still a wealth of useful information on Reddit from all those years for even the most niche questions / topics.
Stay! And participate less in their site, so they note the change.
I haven’t been a daily Reddit user for a long time, if Apollo stayed active and useable I’d keep it loaded on my phone but I’m into the vibe on lemmy and want to be part of it.
Yeah, I'd go back. I notice the bot content has gotten bad on Reddit, but the communities I follow are still okay.
I’ve been looking for an alternative for a while now, and am quite sure I’ve found it.