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Here's the link to the actual letter, for any one curious
it's worth a read. Though, ask yourself... given the capability of interstellar travel, and knowing humans had the psychotic tendency to nuke themselves... multiple times... Would you visit here on vacation?
I just want to know what the lights on all those UFOs people see are for. Too dark in space?
Aliens obey FAA regulations regarding navigation lights.
navigation/position markers on helicopters, or some kind of sUAS, probably. If it's dark enough, you won't see the aircraft itself, especially at a distance, unless it occludes something lit behind it, and helicopters can move in ways you wouldn't necessarily expect. (for example, these are full-collective RC helicopters. The only reasons we don't see full sized birds doing that are the power to weight ratio, human limitations and... the unfortunately boring question of "why")
edit to add: here's the Wildcats demo team, they're a UK based acrobatics team flying. The tictocs, inverted flying, etc, are things you see in rc heli 3d flying; a consequence of the ridiculous power to weight ratio and being able to adjust the throw on the swashplate so that the blades can go "negative pitch" (relative to the aircraft, the rotors would be pushing down instead of up. there's no reason to do that on a full scale bird; besides making passengers vomit. Which is easy enough to do anyhow. Wildcats love taking fighter pilots up...)
I don't think you realize how big space is.
Space is big. I mean, really really big. You may think it's a long walk down the street to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
I do, actually. I'm just ignoring that discussion because it usually gets eyes to gloss over. (edit, and there's a lot of handwavium that even JJ Abrams could be proud of there.)
So I'm going with the "would you want to visit a psychotic species that has nuked itself hundreds of times?" (only 2 were done in anger, but there were more than 500 atmospheric tests. Thousands of underground/sea tests, as well.)
Also, for clarification, I'm saying they're seeing human-made aircraft, either helicopters or sUAS's performing in ways that people who aren't quite as familiar wouldn't expect. if you can't see the aircraft body and just guess off navigation markers, you can wind up with some rather wild assumptions.
That’s a relative statement.
And you're a relative badger.
That’s Honey Badger to you.
That is one of the only cases where discussing size is not relative actually. Space is always big. It's big compared to a person, it's big compared to a planet, it's big compared to a star system, it's big compared to a galaxy, it's big compared to a galactic cluster, and it's approximately equal in size to the universe.
My comment was a humorous play on words, especially if understood in the context of physics and the theory of relativity, which deals with the fabric of space and time. In this context, I’m making a joke about the concept of “big” being relative in the vast and complex expanse of the universe.
That's like a spastic dragon fly.
TBH as an RC heli pilot I am no where near that skilled. I can manage to not crash and maybe get inverted a bit and do some funnels, maybe a few ticktocks by accident (where the rotor goes mostly on edge and pounces between slightly not-inverted and slightly inverted)
these guys are phenomenal.
Mostly, I like building whacky things, or like, scale models of sci-fi ships, and doing my best to hide the rotors and stuff. one of my favorites is Klatu's ship from the 1950's version of the Day the Earth Stood Still. I may have fucked around with a cop that was "Catching up on his reports" (aka napping).
I mean, humans would do it. We would hold Running Man contests on pay-per-view to help pay for it. The contestants would literally kill each other for the ability to take an interstellar flight to a planet with deadly alien life. Just for the chance see and probably be killed by an alien.
That or just Wildlife videos.
"So begins the mating dance of the dominant species on this planet, a mostly hairless ape that is nearly sapient, capable of great feats of intuitive engineering but shockingly lacking in yfgiiizghi thought processes. Their unfortunate lack of competition has already created a devastating ecological catastrophe that shall yet grow worse, but that matters not to Brad, who appears to be exaggerating the size of a fish he caught to Becky."
I think we humans are probably a bit self-centered or narcissistic in our fascination with aliens, like the belief they may wish to control or take our planet, or something. Objects in space are all pretty much made out of the same elements, so we probably have nothing they would need if they have technology that makes traveling to us trivial. Space is so vast it would be easier for them at that technology level to obtain whatever they need from uninhabited planets or asteroids and avoid any unnecessary hassle or contamination. I've often felt that if we've actually been noticed by any alien presence, we're probably regarded much the same way an anthill at the edge of a truck stop parking lot is, rarely acknowledged, much less cared about when we are.
Except for the entomologist-types that are into that sort of thing, or we piss off the wrong proverbial trucker and they pour out a proverbial gallon of gas and set the anthill on fire, sure.
The entomologist types would be careful enough to not give us anything crazy… unless they’re polish. At which point, they might just let the proverbial cannibal ants out. (Seriously, did they not realize cannibal ants in an abandoned Soviet nuclear bunker is how the world ends? They need to watch more b-rated sci-fi…)
Guy who didn't want the job whines about the job in public after refusing to do it
I don't know man, sounds like something an alien would say
Shout-out to the All Domain Research Office's reporting website, that requires being a federal employee and submitting unclassified proof.
Nothing worth knowing will be unclassified, that's his basis for "nobody submitted any proof"
Submitting classified information would be illegal. How in the world could they require anything else?
Also, AARO didn’t even have a website until August 31 2023. Sean Kirkpatrick admitted to speaking with people like David Grusch prior to officially starting his role. But, since these didn’t go through official reporting channels they never got reviewed. DOD even released a report admitting to failing at documenting UAP.
Was that the only way to reach out or submit proof?
That's the only one I could find.
And as expected the conversation shifts from the facts gathered by the article to every other kind of speculation possible. Didn’t even have time to make popcorn.
All these sweaties have no imagination.
I dont need faster than light travel, I just have to have developed earlier than you.
You know what a Von Newman probe is? Its a machine that is capable of self replication.
So lets say that thousands of years ago an alien species identifies solar systems with planets inside their habitable zones and launches Von Newman probes at them - no faster than light travel required.
Also explains crashes, the mini-probes, built by the "mothership" are literally that - expendable.
We are literally talking about doing something similar to Alpha Centurai
You know what a Von Newman probe is?
No, please do tell us what a Von "Newman" probe is.
