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Kind of just felt like sparking a discussion thread and thought this might be an interesting one.

For me personally, one of, if not, my most controversial takes is that I will associate with anyone. Regardless of their opinions of if I personally find their opinions to be disgusting or revolting. I will give anyone respect who gives me respect.

Another one which I've expressed here before is that I do not think someone simply being a pedophile automatically makes them a pure evil child abuser who can't help but rape every child that they see. And that some people can have this affliction and not actively seek out abusive content or attempt abusive actions.

My opinions on loli/shota/cub are also fairly controversial, but I imagine those are mostly shared by the majority of people here.

That should probably get us started pretty good!

So, What's a controversial take that you have that most people would disagree with?

Feel free to have peaceful discussions about other people's responses.

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[โ€“] jacory@burggit.moe 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

controversial here probably, but I think the whole "cunny" and "๐Ÿ˜ญ" shit is obnoxious in general but it's especially cringe when it's constantly posted in response to something non sexual that features younger characters like this and this for example. I feel like I would feel better defending people who were into that kind of stuff if they weren't so coomer brained and annoying. doesn't help that, at least on twitter, that there's a huge overlap of people making jacking off to lolis their whole personality and being a huge edgy piece of shit

i'm fine with that kinda content as long as you're a regular human being who can differentiate fiction from reality but when you have loliraper1488 larping about how much they want to fuck kids it kinda ruins it for everyone else imo and I kinda just stop caring about how people perceive you

[โ€“] Mousepad@burggit.moe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait what's wrong with the sob emoji? That's my number one emoji ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[โ€“] jacory@burggit.moe 2 points 1 year ago

I mean nothing really, I just think people who spam stuff like uohhh ๐Ÿ˜ญ and the other 4 same npc dialogue options whenever there's a loli/shota in a non-sexual setting are annoying. Don't get me wrong I really don't like the other side either lol, the people who will call you a pedo for playing certain games (like the quote rts in the 2nd link).

[โ€“] Nazrin@burggit.moe 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think a few decades down the road, no offence pedophilia will be destigmatized like being gay was. There was an old stigma that being gay meant that you were the type of person who who go around raping males (homosexual was used much like pedophile is). I think that in a few decades, people will say it was morally unjust to do the things that are being done to the non-offenders of today.

[โ€“] Mousepad@burggit.moe 2 points 1 year ago

I think the key difference is that you can have consensual gay relationships in real life, whereas there is no analogous situation for MAPs. I do think that probably makes a pretty big difference in people's minds, so I'm not sure how we would progress past that. Additionally, normalization was important for the LGBTQ+ movement: media depictions of "normal" gay people. That isn't possible for MAPs in live-action, so that's another barrier.

[โ€“] Wizpeepee@burggit.moe 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it will be. I do hope that its pervasiveness will be recognized by average people, and we will stop treating me them like monsters.

All sexual taboos are latent in human sexuality.

[โ€“] RA2lover@burggit.moe 1 points 1 year ago

The intellectual property system is the reason we can't have nice things.

loli and shota are very different from cp if you have cp yeah thats bad but loli and shota is alright no body got hurt its fiction