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Started off by

  1. Enabling unattended updates
  2. Enable only ssh login with key
  3. Create user with sudo privileges
  4. Disable root login
  5. Enable ufw with necessary ports
  6. Disable ping
  7. Change ssh default port 21 to something else.

Got the ideas from networkchuck

Did this on the proxmox host as well as all VMs.

Any suggestions?

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[–] Zerafiall@alien.top 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  1. Don’t bother with disabling icmp. You’ll use it way more then it’s worth disabling, and something like nmap -Pn -p- X.X.X.0/24 will find all your servers anyways (same can be said for ssh and port 22. But moving that does stop some bots)

  2. As long as i go out not exposing anything the the global internet, you really don’t need a lot. The fire wall should already deny all inbound traffic.

The next step is monitoring. It's one thing to think your stuff is safe and locked down. It's another thing to know your stuff is safe. Something like Observium, Nagios, Zabbix, or otherwise is a great way to make sure everything stays up, as well as having insights into what everything it doing. Even Uptime Kuma is a good test. Then something like Wazuh to watch for security events and OpenVAS or Nessus, to look holes. I'd even though in CrowdSec for host based virus detection. (Warning, this will quickly send you down the rabbit hole of being a SOC analyst for your own home)

[–] Internet-of-cruft@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

Block outbound traffic too.

Open up just what you need.

Segment internally and restrict access. You don't need more than SSH to a Linux Server, or perhaps to it's web interface for an application running on it.

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[–] EugeneBelford1995@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

Honestly, between the home lab being behind a RTR, NATed, patched & updated, and given the lack of users clicking on random crap and plugging in thumb drives from God Only Knows Where ... I'd go out on a limb and say it's already more secure than most PCs.

There's also no data besides what I already put on Medium and GitHub, so it's not a very attractive target.

[–] sysadminafterdark@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

Take a look at CIS benchmarks and DoD STIGs. Many companies are starting to harden their infrastructure using these standards, depending on the requirements of the environment. Once you get the hang of it, then automate deployment. DO NOT blow in ALL of the rules at once. You WILL break shit. Every environment has security exceptions. If you’re running Active Directory, run Ping Castle and remediate any issues. Audit often, make sure everything is being monitored.

[–] jmartin72@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't expose anything to the outside world. If you do, use something like Cloudflare tunnels or Tailscale.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Or host a VPN on it and get in through that. Many of these microservices are insecure, and the real risk comes from opening them up to the Internet. This is important.

Also set permissions properly if applicable

[–] tango_suckah@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

I watch networkchuck on occasion, but some of his ideas are... questionable I think. Not necessarily wrong, but not the "YOU MUST DO THIS" that his titles suggest (I get it, get clicks, no hate).

Of the ideas you mentioned, (2), (3), (4), and (5) are somewhere between "reasonable" and "definitely". The rest are either iffy (unattended updates) or security theater (disable ICMP, change ports).

Something to keep in mind for step (2), securing SSH login with a key: this is only as secure as your key. If your own machine, or any machine or service that stores your key, is compromised then your entire network is compromised. Granted, this is kind of obvious, but just making it clear.

As for security theater, specifically step (6). Don't disable ping. It adds nothing to security and makes it harder to troubleshoot. If I am an attacker in a position for ping to get to an internal resource in the first place, then I'm just going to listen for ARP broadcasts (on same subnet) or let an internal router do it for me ("request timed out" == host is there but not responding).

[–] Much_Maintenance_850@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

on the hardware side of the story.

Dont Forget to update all your firmware's and Bios for possible vital penetrations.

[–] tuanbo91@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Disable all incoming, use cloudflare tunnel

[–] Digital_Warrior@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lock and key

[–] Comfortable-Cause-81@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ssh default port is 22.

Really, unless I'm trying to learn security (valid), or have something to protect. I do the basic best practices.

Real security is an offline backup.

[–] PreppyAndrew@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

SSH port really doesnt matter. If it is an exposed SSH port, it will probably get picked up if its 69 or 22.

[–] mss-cyclist@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unattended updates can be tricky.

Think of config changes which need manual adjustment, or a broken update. This is something you would probably not like to happen at night without notice. Could easily break your vital systems (e.g. homeassistant, authentication, vaults...)

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[–] LAKnerd@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Air gapped, no Internet access. I don't use Internet services for any of my stuff though so I can get away without direct Internet access

[–] jjaAK3eG@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Hosted reverse proxy and VPN servers. I have no open ports on my home network.

[–] tabortsenare@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Internet > Firewall, IP Whitelist, IPS/IDS yada yada> DMZ / VLAN > > Proxmox /w FW:$true (rule only for game ports) > GameServer > Deny all traffic from GameServer to go anywhere but internet

Proxmox server has firewall, all the hosts on proxmox have firewall enabled (in proxmox). Only allow my main device to access. No VLAN crosstalk permitted.

I don't bother with anything else internally, if they're inside they deserve to SSH with my default root / password credentials

[–] wallacebrf@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)
  1. strict 3-2-1 backup policy
  2. VLANs. all VLANs are controlled by my Fortigate FWF-61E (soon to be replaced by a FG-91G). the VLANs have strict access permissions on a per-device basis on what they can and cannot access.
    1. CORE network where the NAS live
      1. only specific devices can access this VLAN, and most only have access to the SMB ports for data access. even fewer devices have access to the NAS management ports
      2. this network has restrictions on how is accesses the internet
      3. I have strict IPS, web-filtering, DNS filtering, network level fortigate AV, deep SSL inspection, and intrusion protection activities
      4. everything is logged, any and all incoming and outgoing connections both to/from the internet but also any LAN based local communications.
    2. Guest wifi
      1. can ONLY access the internet
      2. has very restrictive web and DNS filtering
      3. I have strict IPS, web-filtering, DNS filtering, network level fortigate AV, basic SSL inspection, and intrusion protection activities
    3. APC Network Management Cards
      1. can ONLY access my SMTP2GO email client so it can send email notifications
      2. it does have some access to the CORE network (NTP, SYSLOG, SNMP)
      3. very select few devices can access the management ports of these cards
      4. I have strict IPS, web-filtering, DNS filtering, network level fortigate AV, basic SSL inspection, and intrusion protection activities
    4. Ethernet Switch / WIFI-AP management
        1. very select few devices can access the management ports of the switches
      1. ZERO internet access allowed
    5. ROKUs
      1. restrictive web and DNS filtering to prevent ads and tracking. Love seeing the space where ads SHOULD be and seeing a blank box.
      2. can access ONLY the IP of my PLEX server on the CORE network, on ONLY the PLEX port for the services PLEX requires.
    6. IoT devices
      1. Internet access ONLY except for a few devices like my IoTaWatt that needs CORE network access to my NAS on ONLY the port required for InfluxDB logging.
    7. Wife's computer
      1. because of HIPPA due to her job, i have ZERO logging, and no SSL inspection, but do have some web and DNS filtering.
    8. print server
      1. zero internet access, and only the machines that need to print can access.
  3. as already indicated i have a fortigate router which has next generation firewall abilities to protect my network
  4. while i do not have automatic updates i am notified when updates are available for my router, my NAS, the switches, and APC network cards. i always like to look at the release notes and ensure there are no known issues that can negatively impact my operations. I do have most of my docker containers auto-update using watchtower.
  5. i keep SSH disabled and only enable when i ACTUALLY need it, and when i do, i use certificate based authentication
  6. i have disabled the default admin account on ALL devices and made custom admin/root users but also have "normal" users and use those normal users for everything UNLESS i need to perform some kind of activity that requires root/admin rights.
  7. on all devices that have their own internal firewall, i have enabled it to only allow access from VLAN subnets that i allow, and go even further by restricting which IPs on those VLANS can access the device
  8. changing default ports is fairly useless in my opinion as once someone is on your network it is trivial to perform a port scan and find the new ports.
  9. all windows based endpoint machines
    1. have a strict endpoint control using fortigate's fortiguard software with EMS server. this allows me to enforce that machines have minimum specifications,
    2. i use group policy to enforce restrictive user environments to prevent installation of programs, making system changes, accessing the C: drive etc as this prevents a decent amount of malware from executing
    3. antivirus must be enabled and active or the endpoint becomes quarantined.
    4. if the system has unusual behavior it is automatically quarantined and i am notified to take a look
    5. even though the fortigate router blocks all ads and trackers i also use a combination of UBlock Origin to prevent ads and trackers from running in the browser as ADs are now one of the most common points of entry for malware
    6. i use ESET antivirus which also performs and ties into the fortiguard endpoint protection to ensure everything on the machines is OK
  10. for all phones/tablets i have Adguard installed which blocks all ads and malicious web sites and tracking at the phones level

this is not even all of it.

the big take away is i try to layer things. the endpoint devices are most important to protect and monitor as those are the foot hold something needs to then move through the network.

i then use network level protections to secure the remaining portions of the network from other portions of the network.

[–] supercamlabs@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

Messy...just messy

[–] zR0B3ry2VAiH@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Replace Fortinet with Pfsense (+Suricatta/Snort) for non-propriety. (I have a Fortinet firewall and I can't bring myself to pay for their packages). One thing I'd recommend for you, as I host a lot of stuff is DNS Proxy though cloudflare, so the services I'm hosting are not pointing to my origin IP.

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[–] Professional-Bug2305@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Don't worry about it, no one wants to hack your plex server xD just don't expose things directly to the internet and you'll be fine.

[–] gscjj@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use practical security measures that match my level of exposure and don't severely limit my convienience.

If your lab isn't exposed directly to the internet, at the very least update your servers from time to time, use a string root (admin users as well) password. That's more than enough.

If your lab is exposed, the same applies but update more often. Use SSH keys.

Don't go overboard - the majority of security incidents are from lack of basic security

[–] RayneYoruka@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Filter incoming traffic from countries with malicious attacks :)

[–] blentdragoons@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

automatic updates is a great strategy for breaking the system

[–] SirLagz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Automatic backups are great for recovering from broken updates lol

[–] blentdragoons@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

agreed. i do daily backups for everything to s3

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[–] gargravarr2112@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  1. Domain auth (1 place to set passwords and SSH keys), no root SSH
  2. SSH by key only
  3. Passworded sudo (last line of defence)
  4. Only open firewall hole is OpenVPN with security dialled up high
  5. VLANs - laptops segregated from servers
  6. Strict firewall rules between VLANs
  7. TLS on everything
  8. Daily update check alerts (no automatic updates, but persists until I deal with them)
  9. Separate isolated syslog server for audit trails
  10. Cold backups
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[–] theRealNilz02@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unattended updates are a recipe for trouble. I'd never enable that.

I have no public services apart from 2 OpenVPN servers. To access everything else I connect to one of the OpenVPNs and use the services through the VPN routings.

The VPN can only be accessed if you possess a cert and key. I could even implement 2fa but for now SSL auth works securely enough.

[–] phein4242@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I run unattended-upgrades on all the debian/ubuntu deployments I manage. One of the deployments even has automatic reboots enabled. I still do major upgrades by hand/terraform, but the process itself works flawless in my experience.

[–] calinet6@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

UDM’s regular built in threat filtering, good firewall rules, updated services, and not opening up unnecessarily to the internet. And be vigilant but don’t worry too much about it. That’s it.

[–] murdaBot@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Don't expose unnecessary things to the internet, keep any client PCs patched, use some sort of malware protection ... and that's all you need to do.

All these VLANs are such are just overkill unless you're actively exposing things to the internet. They wind up breaking really useful stuff, especially stuff that relies on multicast.

Besides, that Chinese IoT device can't get hacked if it's not open to the 'net in the first place.

[–] lunakoa@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

My home lab and production network are separated by a firewall.

I have backups and plans to rebuild my lab, I actually do it regularly.

My labs do risky things, I get comfortable with those things before doing it in production.

[–] Adventurous-Mud-5508@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

My security is basically if they get past an updated opnsense firewall I could be highly inconvenienced, but everything irreplaceable is backed up in the cloud and offline in my basement.

[–] FluffyBunny-6546@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Armed guards at every entrance.

[–] limecardy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

SSH shouldn’t be internet accessible Changing an SSH port won’t stop someone more than 15 seconds. Disabling ping is security through obscurity at best.

[–] ellie288@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Also consider TCP Wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) and DenyHosts/fail2ban.

[–] theniwo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Enabling unattended updates -> Hell no. Regular Patchdays
Enable only ssh login with key -> yes
Create user with sudo privileges -> yes
Disable root login -> no
Enable ufw with necessary ports -> Basic iptables, but not on all hosts. But fail2ban
Disable ping -> nope
Change ssh default port 21 to something else. -> nope

[–] lack_of_reserves@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Remember to configure fail2ban, the defaults are silly.

Also, these days I prefer crowdsec to fail2ban.

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[–] dinosaurdynasty@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Honestly I just use a good firewall and forward_auth/authelia in caddy (so authentication happens before any apps) and it works well.

I also don't expose SSH to the public internet anymore (more laziness than anything, have it semi-exposed in yggdrasil and wireguard) (mostly because the SSH logs get annoying for journalctl -f)

[–] billiarddaddy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Non standard ports.

Ssh keys.

Web certificates.

[–] NotTheSharpestPenciI@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

set up vpn and disable ssh access from outside network

[–] WillingLimit3552@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Disable root login covers 99.9999 percent of it, as long as your box has only one or two obscure login accounts.

[–] Brilliant_Sound_5565@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Easy, i keep it up to date, i have nothing exposed to the internet, and i lock the door :)

[–] daronhudson@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By not opening anything to the wider internet.

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[–] Illustrious_Poet5957@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lock and key, shotgun by the door

[–] Randommaggy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Tailscale, expose nothing to the wider web if not actually needed.

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