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Missouri Independent: Missouri AG in abortion pill lawsuit argues fewer teen pregnancies hurt state financially (missouriindependent.com)

submitted 20 hours ago by Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works to c/news@lemmy.world

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In making the case that the states have standing this time, the attorneys general contend access to mifepristone has lowered “birth rates for teenaged mothers,” arguing it contributes to causing a population loss for the states along with “diminishment of political representation and loss of federal funds.”

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And even the financial argument is a joke.

Teenage pregnancies mean less education, which means lower salary, which means more public benefits and less taxes. So the state loses money.

Teenage pregnancies mean more poorer moms and children, which means greater state expenses on health care, child care, and housing. More teen pregnancies means more unhealthy teen pregnancies, which means more ER costs from people with no money to pay for them.

And we could run the numbers, but the point is that we don't need to. They needed to, and they didn't, because the whole calculation is filled with unjustifiable assumptions about the importance of counting some things while ignoring others.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 20 minutes ago

The idea of not raising minimum wage and keeping wage slaves and corporate welfare is what they're arguing. It's not that it costs taxpayers more, it's that it costs rich people and corporations less.

[–] fpslem@lemmy.world 72 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I know that the state is trying to manufacture standing so it can bring the claim, but this is a deeply cynical and unethical argument that I would be embarrassed to make.

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 31 points 20 hours ago

But once it makes it up to Clarence's docket he'll just look at it and accept it.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

That means you are capable of shame, though, and could never be a Republican.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, alongside GOP attorneys general in Kansas and Idaho are using the same logic (benefits of amount of representation at the Federal level) the Southern Slave states used to argue for their right to partially count slaves as a population to gain more benefits at the Federal level. This was called the "Three-Fifths Compromise" source

"Slave holding states wanted their entire population to be counted to determine the number of Representatives those states could elect and send to Congress."

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 45 points 20 hours ago

Quiet parts out loud.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 18 points 18 hours ago

HUMAN LIFE > $, YOU ARROGANT INHUMANE PIECE OF SHIT! FUCK OFF AND GO EXPLORE YOUR OWN FISCAL VALUE BY REMOVING YOURSELF FROM THE ALLOCATION OF FEDERAL FUNDS!

These goddamn bastards vacuuming up public funds, political power, and then having the gall to say such reductive insults about the people who put them in power in the first place.

[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 26 points 19 hours ago

If you need unwanted teen pregnancies to offset a population loss, then maybe you have bigger issues.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 29 points 20 hours ago

How are we supposed to oppress people if we don't have people to oppress?!?!

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 30 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if he has said nearly the exact same thing about keeping innocent people incarcerated.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Big time Warden Norton vibes https://youtu.be/kKdUsJU-cQ0

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago

"Okay okay, fine, you can abort unwanted embryos, but the state should still get to count them as possible population so I can extract power from the nation based upon your existence. Lets compromise on this. How about I get to count 3 of every 5 abortions as population so I get power and you get to keep control of your body. We'll call it the 3/5ths compromise. Everyone wins!" - Missouri AG probably

[–] whatalute@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Since the fall of Roe v Wade they sure love to shout how "It's a state's rights issue." ...so let's demand the federal government reinstates more stringent rules for dispensing meds on ALL states because apparently teenage pregnancy is actually a good thing now and dis hurts my poor republican fee-fees. Iron clad logic. I might be a little impressed with the level of mental gymnastics these idiots go through if it wasn't so pathetic and harmful.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 5 points 17 hours ago

Start with viagra

[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

This has been the real issue all along and I’ve screamed this for years. The ones in power don’t want abortion NOT because of religion but because it will cause a dent to their working underclass.

Eventually they will just ditch the religion B.S. and all start reveling themselves for what they truly are.

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

"Our political party's policies are so backwards only a middle school dropout can't smell the bullshit and our fiscal policy is so fucked that we need to rely on scrounging up whatever federal subsidisies we can find, but we're the victims here"

Proceeds to blow millions on a Trump bible contract

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 points 18 hours ago

Wow, yeah, they have some real problems in GOPer lalaland. smh.