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[–] Angel@hexbear.net 10 points 31 minutes ago

I thought Zionists wanted people to condemn hummus. Did I not hear them correctly?

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 26 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

me: I am against the death penalty

i am reminded of destiny's existance

Me: well... hmmm

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 44 points 4 hours ago

banned for a sanctioned event at Twitch's own convention is a fucking insane thing to do to them. these myopic zionist pieces of shit aren't content with violently starving Palestinians and Lebanese people in those countries, so apparently they have to try to starve the vocal ones that live in amerikkka too. interesting that they didn't ban the actual Jewish person that was part of the same event, whose idea it was, seemingly. they also put one of the Arab people that got banned (denims) at the bottom of the "loves sabra" tier, how does that stack with "Sabra = Jew" calculus that the ADL is pushing?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 3 hours ago

That event, in summary:

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 60 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

i enjoyed the double entendre of "likes Sabra", as both criticizing people who like the shitty hummus and also the massacre it's named after.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 37 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well you see Sabra could also mean "israeli-born person" so it's actually super antisemitic to talk about the shitty grainy hummus.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The term alludes to a tenacious, thorny desert plant, known in English as prickly pear, with a thick skin that conceals a sweet, softer interior. The cactus is compared to Israeli Jews, who are supposedly tough on the outside, but delicate and sweet on the inside.

which ya know, additionally silly when you consider the plant is from the Americas, and was widely used in colonial states as a living fence

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"Sweet and delicate inside" is a hell of a way to describe "full of rancid shit and bloody entrails" tbh, they're so full of themselves lol...

What part is the "sweetness" again? It's certainly not given to the indigenous Arabs- so who is it for? Non-Arabs, like the Asian laborers they prevent from fraternizing with locals or having sex whatsoever in the country (racist racial purity bullshit from the sounds of it)? To their fellow Jews, like the Ethiopian Jews they have forcefully sterilized, the Yemeni and other MENA Jews they discriminate against, or all those Jewish people who reject their settler-colonialism- or even those fellow Zionists who simply have concerns or get in the way (that Hannibal protocol lol)?

What sweetness exactly are we talking about lol.. they may as well have called the Nazis sweet, their attitude in some ways even is more repulsive than that.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Asian laborers they prevent from fraternizing with locals or having sex whatsoever in the country

Jesus fucking Christ.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/24/israel1

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 1 points 19 minutes ago
[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The metaphor would make more sense if you opened up a prickly pear and inside was just more spines pointing inward

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 14 points 2 hours ago

It would make more sense if the fruit in question was a bomb that detonated inside a hospital.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

If Hasan had a spine, he'd stop streaming for 30 days and refund everyone's subs.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 27 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Two weeks out from the election it would be a terrible strategy to intentionally deplatform the largest leftist pipeline on the internet, especially considering the potential to radicalize scores of disillusioned liberals

If would also give Ethan and destiny exactly what they want, which is to silence all pro-Palestinian voices

Hasan's strategy of largely ignoring Ethan and using the drama as launching pad to educate on the crimes of Israeli apartheid is driving Klein up the wall, the man is spiraling

Replacing that with an online hunger strike just isn't efficient or likely to be effective in any way

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 4 points 49 minutes ago

lol Hasan with Hezbollah strategy of not responding to provocations and keeping cool at all times.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 4 points 52 minutes ago

Two weeks out from the election

I'm starting to realize how much money and viewership Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are about to lose out on from their month-long bans

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I never said anything about Hasan going dark. I said not streaming on Twitch. He can stream in TikTok, Instagram, or YouTube.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 2 points 14 minutes ago

nah, he should simply stream Bisan's documentary and any other available Gazan-filmed footage 24/7 without physically being online or saying a word

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hasan won't be getting 70k-200k views on election day streaming on TikTok, Instagram, or YouTube

Twitch is his platform, you can't just transfer an entire audience to other platforms overnight, it takes years to build up, having the platform is simply more important than making a well-meaning moral gesture that'll be forgotten in a month

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Why exactly is covering electoralism more important than solidarity with pro-Palestinian voices being silenced by Twitch over racist lies?

[–] somename@hexbear.net 3 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

You're just projecting that these people, who he actually knows and talks to, want him to go offline, and that he's refusing them.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 2 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago) (1 children)

Listen, just say you want your slop. I'm sure they want to be unbanned, too. Should anyone try to do anything about that, or should we just do whatever allows you to tune into Hasan on Twitch still?

[–] somename@hexbear.net 2 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

I think you're naive if you think Hasan not broadcasting would commute their ban in any way.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 2 points 34 minutes ago

Just say you care more about your slop. Is that so hard?

[–] dead@hexbear.net 30 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Obviously your post is in bad faith and honestly disgusting. You see a post where people are being silenced for supporting Palestine and you are trying to shift the blame to someone you don't like a personal level. You saw pro-palestinian and pro-lebanese voices getting silenced, 2 of these people have family being bombed, and you try to make this into an opportunity to stir up drama. You are gross.

All of the people who were banned are friends of Hasan and have direct communication with Hasan. None of the people who are banned would want Hasan to stop streaming. They like that he reports Israel's crimes to thousands or millions of people. It is very likely that Hasan is talking to them right now to try to help them out and possibly also talking with twitch to try to get rid of the bans.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 3 points 47 minutes ago

i don't think their statement was at all unreasonable.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 45 minutes ago) (2 children)

Hasan is a huge fucking money maker for Twitch. Maybe their biggest. I'm not shifting blame to Hasan. These accusations are bullshit, and Hasan should go on strike and make it hurt for Twitch. No one else on the platform is running 30+ minutes of ads a day to 40K+ viewers and bringing in $35K+ a month in subs. If he didn't have that sort of power and impact on their operations, then they would have banned him for 30 days, too. Do you think the ADL didn't ask for it?

EDIT: And he's about to enter his biggest money making period for twitch with the electio

EDIT: By the way, @dead@hexbear.net, since I forgot initially, go fuck yourself for me "bad faith". You care more about your slop watching Hasan than doing literally anything to actually stand up against Twitch and these fucking racist zionists. Calling me bad faith when when you are about to give Twitch $7.99 or watch their ads as a reward for banning Pro Palestine voices. Nothing is stopping Hasan from going to YouTube or Instagram or TikTok, plenty of other streamers already stream there.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't how strikes work lol. One streamer withholding labor doesn't have leverage in this way. Twitch would either ignore it or just punish him. All this would do is silence the biggest pro-Palestinian voice on Twitch.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

There's about to be only one pro-Palestine streamer on twitch at this rate. How long will that last?

Hasan isn't some normal streamer. The revenue he brings in for that company probably covers a couple staff's monthly salaries. He alone makes ~$250K/month, and because he hits the $100K threshold in a couple weeks, that means twitch is also making $250K/month off of him.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, a lot less if he voluntarily self-bans.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

He can go stream on YouTube, TikTok, or Instagram for 30 days.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The idea has some tactical merit, I think it's a discussion he should have with his peers on the platform imo

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I just cancelled my Turbo subscription over it and I selected other and told them that if they are going to treat Arabs and Muslims in a racist and unfair manner, then I don't want to give Twitch my money. I'm not a streamer but that's the most I can do right now. I'm leaning toward a 30 day boycott as well.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

There’s 100% a life-destroying defamation suit to make against Ethan and Stephen “grandpa owned slaves” Bonnercelli opening here. Ethan especially, stupidly, has been lying openly repeatedly. Obviously Amazon and the Twitch CEO specifically can now be roped into a civil suit and also maybe defamation if their internal reasoning for this is literally “because Arabs.”

The first two could be sued by “normal” people and extract ass-destroying settlements. Unfortunately due to Hellscape and all that, Amazon could only be taken on with a chance at winning by ACLU or some other free speech organization with millions to throw at causes. The chances of actually successfully extracting a win from the company is probably not high enough (even though they did clearly cause undue harm and their TOS wasn’t even breached- not that TOS even matters) for them to engage. Nor are the consequences high enough. As in, they aren’t going to prison (yet… let the Nazis keep chipping away).

But I do hope Ethan is sued into oblivion. I haven’t seen anything from Nazielli because I don’t watch his dumb shit. If he’s said anything even 1% as defamatory as Ethan in the last month or so, rope his ass in too along with any other of the pro-genocide dumbasses. The case would be pretty straight forward. Nothing to do with actual pro-Palestinian sentiments just a pure factual look at “Was this anti-semitic… no, clearly not, Ethan, bend over, reach into deep asshole, pull out cash. Steve, you’re next.”

[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago

Honest question: how much would such a lawsuit rely on the definition of antisemitism, and how much of an issue is it that the US congress has been making a specific push to include anti-zionism in the definition of antisemitism?

I honestly kinda doubt our justice system would give them a fair definition right now.....

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[–] dead@hexbear.net 69 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (8 children)

Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are all friends of Hasanabi. I think they're all Leftist. Frogan is a muslim woman and said she hopes that American soldiers get PTSD for helping Israel (based). Vio is comedy twitch stream, but I think with Leftist sympathy. Vio also lives with / is dating Central_Committee (Mike_From_PA on twitter), which is the second largest self-proclaimed socialist news channel on twitch. Denims is a woman on twitch who talks about some Leftism stuff. Capri aka CapriSunnPapi is Palestinian/Lebanese man. Frogan and Capri both have family who live in Lebanon. I think these are actually cool people, not vaushite people.

here's a video where Frogan and Capri talk about their family in Lebanon. They talk about their families being bombed by Israel.
https://youtu.be/zrnc6j6zNy4?t=1501

The bans were probably lead by Ethan Klein and Destiny's community.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 27 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

goddamn ADL is tweeting about Frogan by name now, as if she doesn't get enough constant threats of death and violence and SA

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 8 points 43 minutes ago

ADL when they see an Arab woman with an audience: pigmask-off

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 65 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Ethan and Destiny are taking credit for the bans and gloating on their shows, in reality the ADL claimed they spoke directly with Twitch staff which was followed by the bans

This shit is so obviously racist, straight up targeted harassment of Arab and pro-Palestine streamers by zionists and their right-wing allies

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 4 hours ago

I bet the only reason they banned that one smelly guy who supported genocide for 2 weeks was so they could do this and claim they are doing "both sides" and not just serving the ADL

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 39 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

ADL probably wouldnt have noticed until D and subsequently h3 made it a thing. But thats definitely the pressure twitch had to cave to.

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

And to be more specific, it could be based on an insinuation that the hummus brand name was code for “Israeli-borne Jew” that I saw ethan saying it’s a thing based on comments on the D psychos.

Which is of course 100% not real but who gives a shit right.

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[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 36 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Ethan KKKlein of Heinrich3Himler3 and the ADL teamed up for this one, honestly we're lucky hasan isnt getting it too because Ethan is leveraging his huge platform against him

[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago

Wasn't he doing a stream targeting the twitch ceo and feigning outrage that Hasan hasn't been banned yet today?

That guy is completely lost his fucking mind

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

They originally wanted to call the channel HH88 but that was slightly too obvious.

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