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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 9 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

me: I am against the death penalty

i am reminded of destiny's existance

Me: well... hmmm

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 28 points 1 hour ago

banned for a sanctioned event at Twitch's own convention is a fucking insane thing to do to them. these myopic zionist pieces of shit aren't content with violently starving Palestinians and Lebanese people in those countries, so apparently they have to try to starve the vocal ones that live in amerikkka too. interesting that they didn't ban the actual Jewish person that was part of the same event, whose idea it was, seemingly. they also put one of the Arab people that got banned (denims) at the bottom of the "loves sabra" tier, how does that stack with "Sabra = Jew" calculus that the ADL is pushing?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 52 minutes ago

That event, in summary:

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 14 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

If Hasan had a spine, he'd stop streaming for 30 days and refund everyone's subs.

[–] dead@hexbear.net 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Obviously your post is in bad faith and honestly disgusting. You see a post where people are being silenced for supporting Palestine and you are trying to shift the blame to someone you don't like a personal level. You saw pro-palestinian and pro-lebanese voices getting silenced, 2 of these people have family being bombed, and you try to make this into an opportunity to stir up drama. You are gross.

All of the people who were banned are friends of Hasan and have direct communication with Hasan. None of the people who are banned would want Hasan to stop streaming. They like that he reports Israel's crimes to thousands or millions of people. It is very likely that Hasan is talking to them right now to try to help them out and possibly also talking with twitch to try to get rid of the bans.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago) (1 children)

Hasan is a huge fucking money maker for Twitch. Maybe their biggest. I'm not shifting blame to Hasan. These accusations are bullshit, and Hasan should go on strike and make it hurt for Twitch. No one else on the platform is running 30+ minutes of ads a day to 40K+ viewers and bringing in $35K+ a month in subs. If he didn't have that sort of power and impact on their operations, then they would have banned him for 30 days, too. Do you think the ADL didn't ask for it?

EDIT: And he's about to enter his biggest money making period for twitch with the election

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 4 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

The idea has some tactical merit, I think it's a discussion he should have with his peers on the platform imo

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 6 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

I just cancelled my Turbo subscription over it and I selected other and told them that if they are going to treat Arabs and Muslims in a racist and unfair manner, then I don't want to give Twitch my money. I'm not a streamer but that's the most I can do right now. I'm leaning toward a 30 day boycott as well.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 3 points 4 minutes ago

Two weeks out from the election it would be a terrible strategy to intentionally deplatform the largest leftist pipeline on the internet, especially considering the potential to radicalize scores of disillusioned liberals

If would also give Ethan and destiny exactly what they want, which is to silence all pro-Palestinian voices

Hasan's strategy of largely ignoring Ethan and using the drama as launching pad to educate on the crimes of Israeli apartheid is driving Klein up the wall, the man is spiraling

Replacing that with an online hunger strike just isn't efficient or likely to be effective in any way

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 45 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

i enjoyed the double entendre of "likes Sabra", as both criticizing people who like the shitty hummus and also the massacre it's named after.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 26 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well you see Sabra could also mean "israeli-born person" so it's actually super antisemitic to talk about the shitty grainy hummus.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

The term alludes to a tenacious, thorny desert plant, known in English as prickly pear, with a thick skin that conceals a sweet, softer interior. The cactus is compared to Israeli Jews, who are supposedly tough on the outside, but delicate and sweet on the inside.

which ya know, additionally silly when you consider the plant is from the Americas, and was widely used in colonial states as a living fence

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 4 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

The metaphor would make more sense if you opened up a prickly pear and inside was just more spines pointing inward

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 4 points 39 minutes ago

It would make more sense if the fruit in question was a bomb that detonated inside a hospital.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 2 points 11 minutes ago

"Sweet and delicate inside" is a hell of a way to describe "full of rancid shit and bloody entrails" tbh, they're so full of themselves lol...

What part is the "sweetness" again? It's certainly not given to the indigenous Arabs- so who is it for? Non-Arabs, like the Asian laborers they prevent from fraternizing with locals or having sex whatsoever in the country (racist racial purity bullshit from the sounds of it)? To their fellow Jews, like the Ethiopian Jews they have forcefully sterilized, the Yemeni and other MENA Jews they discriminate against, or all those Jewish people who reject their settler-colonialism- or even those fellow Zionists who simply have concerns or get in the way (that Hannibal protocol lol)?

What sweetness exactly are we talking about lol.. they may as well have called the Nazis sweet, their attitude in some ways even is more repulsive than that.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

There’s 100% a life-destroying defamation suit to make against Ethan and Stephen “grandpa owned slaves” Bonnercelli opening here. Ethan especially, stupidly, has been lying openly repeatedly. Obviously Amazon and the Twitch CEO specifically can now be roped into a civil suit and also maybe defamation if their internal reasoning for this is literally “because Arabs.”

The first two could be sued by “normal” people and extract ass-destroying settlements. Unfortunately due to Hellscape and all that, Amazon could only be taken on with a chance at winning by ACLU or some other free speech organization with millions to throw at causes. The chances of actually successfully extracting a win from the company is probably not high enough (even though they did clearly cause undue harm and their TOS wasn’t even breached- not that TOS even matters) for them to engage. Nor are the consequences high enough. As in, they aren’t going to prison (yet… let the Nazis keep chipping away).

But I do hope Ethan is sued into oblivion. I haven’t seen anything from Nazielli because I don’t watch his dumb shit. If he’s said anything even 1% as defamatory as Ethan in the last month or so, rope his ass in too along with any other of the pro-genocide dumbasses. The case would be pretty straight forward. Nothing to do with actual pro-Palestinian sentiments just a pure factual look at “Was this anti-semitic… no, clearly not, Ethan, bend over, reach into deep asshole, pull out cash. Steve, you’re next.”

[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 1 points 11 minutes ago

Honest question: how much would such a lawsuit rely on the definition of antisemitism, and how much of an issue is it that the US congress has been making a specific push to include anti-zionism in the definition of antisemitism?

I honestly kinda doubt our justice system would give them a fair definition right now.....

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 21 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He loooovveeeessss to talk about all his big Ws in court. I think his legal battles have stoked his ego so much, and a FAT L like that makes me salivate. (Ive just finally canceled my membership, watches regularly up until he started bringing the antisemitism shit up every fucking day)

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

He already caught a fat L in court over slandering Ryan Kavanaugh. It's part of what broke his brain.

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 18 points 2 hours ago
[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 30 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Ethan KKKlein of Heinrich3Himler3 and the ADL teamed up for this one, honestly we're lucky hasan isnt getting it too because Ethan is leveraging his huge platform against him

[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 1 points 4 minutes ago

Wasn't he doing a stream targeting the twitch ceo and feigning outrage that Hasan hasn't been banned yet today?

That guy is completely lost his fucking mind

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 2 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

They originally wanted to call the channel HH88 but that was slightly too obvious.

[–] dead@hexbear.net 55 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (5 children)

Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are all friends of Hasanabi. I think they're all Leftist. Frogan is a muslim woman and said she hopes that American soldiers get PTSD for helping Israel (based). Vio is comedy twitch stream, but I think with Leftist sympathy. Vio also lives with / is dating Central_Committee (Mike_From_PA on twitter), which is the second largest self-proclaimed socialist news channel on twitch. Denims is a woman on twitch who talks about some Leftism stuff. Capri aka CapriSunnPapi is Palestinian/Lebanese man. Frogan and Capri both have family who live in Lebanon. I think these are actually cool people, not vaushite people.

here's a video where Frogan and Capri talk about their family in Lebanon. They talk about their families being bombed by Israel.
https://youtu.be/zrnc6j6zNy4?t=1501

The bans were probably lead by Ethan Klein and Destiny's community.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 14 points 1 hour ago

goddamn ADL is tweeting about Frogan by name now, as if she doesn't get enough constant threats of death and violence and SA

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 53 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Ethan and Destiny are taking credit for the bans and gloating on their shows, in reality the ADL claimed they spoke directly with Twitch staff which was followed by the bans

This shit is so obviously racist, straight up targeted harassment of Arab and pro-Palestine streamers by zionists and their right-wing allies

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 hours ago

I bet the only reason they banned that one smelly guy who supported genocide for 2 weeks was so they could do this and claim they are doing "both sides" and not just serving the ADL

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 33 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

ADL probably wouldnt have noticed until D and subsequently h3 made it a thing. But thats definitely the pressure twitch had to cave to.

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

And to be more specific, it could be based on an insinuation that the hummus brand name was code for “Israeli-borne Jew” that I saw ethan saying it’s a thing based on comments on the D psychos.

Which is of course 100% not real but who gives a shit right.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 31 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

i mean yes in the end it's all streamer drama (to all those that will be like "who are these people ?" to sound cool)

but at the core but it does demonstrate the outsized influence that can be deployed against even the mildly leftist pipeline types. there is precious little in this space for younger people that isn't chud, chud-adjacent, straight fascist, or fascist adjacent zionazi.

it does show how quickly and throughly the entire tiny ecosystem of leftist creators could be absolutely shut down if there was a cross platform coordinated ban. imagine just every leftist instantly having all their socials closed, banned from every platform, utterly silenced and how little anyone would be able to do about it.

because it's coming

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 hours ago

Hopefully some of these big communities will see the writing on the wall and move to places like lemmy, matrix, etc. If all the big leftist streamers got together they could probably afford to make their own site they control, and multistream to it, and twitch or something that way when a ban comes they have it to fall back on.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 13 points 2 hours ago

At least podcasts are relatively decentralized, or at least more easily moved

[–] dead@hexbear.net 28 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I would add that despite these people being streamers, their communities also do some activism in real life, like participating in the antiwar student encampment protests and other protests in support of Palestinians.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 10 points 3 hours ago

Or the ADL: https://x.com/ADL/status/1848501823100932346

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 29 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

zionist einsatzgruppen openly exterminating people in Gaza right now, and these are the "rules" the west is enforcing. not international law, just Calvinball and the ADL calls the shots.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 2 hours ago

I am so sick of this weaselly bullshit where Zionists pretend that they're poor discriminated victims and get people silenced for "antisemitism." Using the banner of anti-racism to facilitate actual genocide.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 30 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Twitch once again proving the whole point of their site is to create the most racist community online. They only banned Israel because having them in the site is like doping.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They didn’t “ban” Israel - that was another half-cocked Diverocelli lie. Twitch put out a statement on it, but basically they turned off the ability to signup via email in the days following Oct 7 last year because they didn’t want people uploading, you know, all the shit going on. They said they forgot to turn it back on for some segment of the region and have now fixed it. Also, they turned off new account signups for not just Israel Israel but the entire region occupied by Israel. So, another point against the dumbass Bonerelli fans thinking they had a point. If anything it sounds like Twitch is anti-Palestine as in they hate the land and anyone living there. They don’t care who lives there, just ban the region (sarcasm, obviously)

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 13 points 3 hours ago

Ah ffs, I had been thinking up funny bits all day long thinking it was real.

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