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Now i have to pay to avoid being tracked? (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 hours ago by GrammarPolice@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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This has to be against some kind of law right?

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

This has to be against some kind of law right?

Only in the EU.

Anyways I think that "pay or consent" model isn't that bad. You either pay with your data or your money. Seems fine to me though pay only would be better. Everyone is used to getting everything online for free. It has to change now imo. The internet isn't a bunch of hobby forum projects anymore. The price of running a popular website is big and idk if privacy-respecting ads can give enough profit at this point.

[–] Cris16228 2 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

What about this https://lemmy.world/post/20593105

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago

Some people will find a way to abuse everything for ultra profit. Sadly it will never change.

[–] Aradia@lemmy.ml 2 points 34 minutes ago (1 children)

You can show ads without tracking and keeping users their right to privacy, right? I think it's different selling user data than having some ads on your website.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago

You can but, as I said, it's much less profitable.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago

Moral of the story? Don't read the Express. To quote Dave Gorman, it's a crock of shit.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Saw this on Sunday. I think it fits here...

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The website doesn't really care; they have hosting costs so if you're not paying with money or by accepting ads then to them you're worse than not visiting at all as you consume resources, so it's good if you leave?

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 3 hours ago

So, it's win win. Good scenario.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

thank brexiters for that, it's illegal in eu

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 hours ago

no it's not, it's a loophole in the legislation that was actually first used and is still most popular in France?

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Remind me why we left again

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 hour ago

To reduce regulations and taxes on rich people, mainly.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

Racism

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 7 hours ago

Don’t worry, once they have your credit card number they’ll track you even more. At best you’ll get a £‎2.35 cheque from a class action lawsuit in seven years, assuming they ever even get caught.

[–] ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What a fantastic website not to visit

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I just wanted to read one article, so i have to pay to reject cookies even though I'll probably never end up on that site again. What a fuckin joke!

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

It's the express, you're better off never reading a word they print

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

Archive.is is your friend

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

To avoid these things I use uBlock Origin and Consent-O-Matic

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Now that's the real PrivacyPlus™

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 5 hours ago

And it's free.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Never heard of consent-o-matic. I'm gonna have to check it out

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Not really, it's just phrased differently to the usual signup pitch, they're putting in a middle ground between full "premium" subscribers (whatever that is) and public access with tracking and ad metrics.

Companies need revenue to operate. They get that revenue from advertising data and selling ad slots, or subscriptions. Whether they actually cease all tracking and ad metrics when you subscribe is something I'd doubt though, and that could be a case for the legal system if they didn't do what they claim.

Personally, this behaviour is the point where I would not consider the site to be valuable enough to bother with.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Wasn't it illegal to not let a user reject a cookie? In the EU at least

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Is this related to the new laws in Europe? I remember seeing something about Facebook introducing a paid tier

[–] Echo5@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Besides the point but are you able to get around it with internet archive?

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Gets around it perfectly