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A federal judge on Monday will hear arguments on whether he should temporarily block a new Louisiana law requiring that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom by Jan. 1.

The hearing on that and other issues in a pending lawsuit challenging the new law is expected to last all day. It’s unclear when U.S. District Judge John W. deGravelles will rule.

Opponents say the law is an unconstitutional violation of separation of church and state and that the display will isolate students, especially those who are not Christian. Proponents argue the measure is not solely religious, but has historical significance to the foundation of U.S. law. Louisiana, a reliably Republican state that is ensconced in the Bible Belt, is the only state with such a requirement.

In June, parents of Louisiana public school children, with various religious backgrounds, filed the lawsuit arguing that the legislation violates First Amendment language forbidding government establishment of religion and guaranteeing religious liberty.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 83 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

has historical significance to the foundation of US law

Inasmuch as it's explicitly forbidden by the foundation of US law from being included in US law?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 44 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it isn't like we don't have like 250 years of documents and court rulings saying this exact thing is clearly unconstitutional.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

What part of "Louisiana" did you fail to grasp.

If they can pass a law to stroke off their "God-fearing" idiots while embezzling every dollar of federal funding they can, that's what they're going to do.

Waiting for the state law that says all federal highway funding has to be used for abortion prevention, specifically at the marketing firm run by the Governor's idiot brother.

No laws in the South, just cops.

[–] Dainterhawk999@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

A point that I would like ask is that USA is a secular country, then why Louisiana state is promoting non secular ideologies?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Because we're independent states, and unfortunately we have consistently failed to hold many of our lowest performing states to the standards all decent humans should hold.

Jim Crow took us 150 years to end, and we're still not completely free of it.

Mostly it's easier for us who don't live there, or no longer live there to ignore the nightmare they have to live through.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

The constitution also clearly says this is unconstitutional.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

In Texas two years ago it was a ballot question weather or not to put a wheelchair ramp on a federal court building, which is explicitly required by the ADA, an over 30 year old law, and they voted no. Laws don't matter if no ones gonna bring consequences.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

“Your Honor, the separation of church and state.”

……..

“I rest my case.”

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Has just been revoked.

Samuel Alito

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that was Danny Glover.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago
[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

"The phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the Constitution. However, the Establishment Clause in the First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing a religion or interfering with the free exercise of religion."

Jefferson letter:" I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

https://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall-html/

So they're very closely related but don't go around saying it's in the Constitution because it isn't.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

I don’t think I said it’s in the constitution.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

This is exactly what they want to happen. They want this to get up to SCOTUS so SCOTUS can declare the U.S. a Christian nation.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

If you read the law as written and voted on in Louisiana, it lists 11 Commandments, because there isn't one list of Commandments that these people can agree on. But they can agree that everyone should be forced to look at them in school?