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[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 155 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Tesla, founded by the billionaire CEO Elon Musk, has frequently faced scrutiny over safety issues.

That is incorrect

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Yet every time the two are mentioned everyone says he's the founder

Journalism is dead

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 week ago (10 children)

It is legally correct, but factually incorrect.

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this the company where he paid a sum of money to the real founder or founders to be called the founder?
Or was that another company?

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Correct on the first part, I don't know if he did it for other companies as well.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks! So he's the $$$paidtobecalledafounderlikeastupididiot$$$ of this company.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

And it worked. That's the worst part. This article and others call him the founder.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It was Saturday evening around 10pm, three restaurant employees went into one of the client car to "try it out", the client (65 years old) was clearly speeding, lost control of the vehicle, left the road and hit a traffic sign.

My bet is that all of that has nothing to do with the fact that this was a Tesla, the only difference is the fire but this is the same for every electric vehicle.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

i wonder if they were unable to open the doors for some non-tesla related reason such as death

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have a source?

None of the articles that I checked this morning had that info.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah but nobody will click a headline like 'person killed in car crash after speeding and hitting a traffic sign'

[–] WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Hmmm I wonder if a vehicle filled with flammable explodey-gas who just drove over 2 metal signs at high speed would be on fire as well? Would it have gotten the attention that this vehicle had, given that ICE cars burn many times more often than EV's do.

It is a tragedy and should be investigated but these articles have to get off the "It's new so it's bad" bandwagon until the investigators come in. It could have been a flat tire at high speeds that sent the car onto that shoulder and over those signs. There is uneven wear on the tires so on the outside of Regenerative Breaking EV's tires look almost new on the outside but trashed on the inside. If it blew because of that, or some nail on the road then there is no fault on Tesla and the man-boy who runs it. If however say steering went or the airbag randomly went off when the car was at speed my least favourite Martian and Tesla would be culpable.

Until then turn the sensationalism on your stories down to 11.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm a fan of EVs, but Tesla lacks ~~security~~ safety and I'm not a fan of it.

It's too complicated to leave the car when power is off for example.

[–] WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You mean it is too complicate to open a door handle? You do know those news stories about people getting trapped in their Teslas had to be taken down because you can just open the door, the people who were trapped weren't only stupid, they were locked in a vehicle with the manual that told them how to get out of the car and they never looked at it.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I posted the manual below, so stop lying

[–] WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not Lying. The vast amount of the stories of people trapped in their Tesla when they loose power are drivers and are alone. So this is what the manual says the person who is in that situation has to do to get out of the car. You showed the Back Seat. This is what they have to do in the front seat.

They have to throw a simple latch. Worst case if you run out of power, say pulling into a charging area because the last one you planned on using was down and you had to make it on a very low charge, and the people in the back did not know about the pulley system they would have to either get out of one of the front doors or wait in the vehicle for help.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yep. That's my issue. It's not the fire, it's that it's really hard to get out in a disaster.

The Tesla could just have easily killed four if it crashed into water.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If I recall correctly, the manual override for the electric inner door handle is hidden under some panel. Major lawsuit material if you ask me, and irresponsible by the certifying authorities,

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[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

no, it wouldn't. Because the car is not filled with aerosolized explodey-gas, but just flammable liquid contained in a robust tank. it is not explosive. It can catch fire, but not simply from impact. You'd need a hole in the tank lower than the current fuel level and an external ignition source. Even if you shoot the gas tank directly, it will not explode. It is physically impossible for it to explode.

Puncture one of an electric car's cells, and it sets off a chain reaction. The whole car very quickly goes up in flames.

[–] WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 days ago

The fact that you are taking the words "explodey-gas" as a serious reference to the fire and not the form of propulsion that ICE cars use and take it seriously makes me wonder about your media literacy.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A hit car engine is an external ignition source, and gas cars go up in flames daily in the us

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

If Musk can remote disable the car, can he remote lock the doors and have it speed up?

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago

Can a malicious actor remotely do stuff with your thing you connected to the internet?

Yes.

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If elon can change the breaking for Full Self Driving, he can disable brakes. I wouldn't be surprised to learn if some people figure out how to backdoor a Tesla and disable breaks. Companies are horrible at securing data and with elons fire 50% of employees mentality I wouldn't be surprised if the cybersecurity people get overworked/mess up one day

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

"Brakes", please.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

He'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he can.

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago

I'm halfway through rewatching Demolition Man as of yesterday evening. Simon Phoenix blew up the capacitance gel in a car using one of the cop's electrical night sticks. I can only assume that Musk is now going to unfreeze John Spartan to deal with these crimes.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Pretty much all forms of vehicle transport is unsafe. This is why electric cars should be thought of as: good but not ideal.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

This is true, yeah. He bought the title of founder.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ooooo sorry, you waived your right to a trail by jury in the EULA you signed.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Not in the EU you didn't.

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