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    [–] oleorun@real.lemmy.fan 188 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)
    [–] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 230 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    tar -h

    Edit: wtf... It's actually tar -?. I'm so disappointed

    [–] oleorun@real.lemmy.fan 220 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 105 points 4 months ago (2 children)
    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Me trying to decompress a .tar file

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    [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 18 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    You don't need the v, it just means verbose and lists the extracted files.

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    [–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 60 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    tar -xzf

    (read with German accent:) extract the files

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 28 points 4 months ago

    Ixtrekt ze feils

    [–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    German here and no shit - that is how I remember that since the first time someone made that comment

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    [–] Gork@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    tar -uhhhmmmfuckfuckfuck

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    [–] frezik@midwest.social 94 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Zip makes different tradeoffs. Its compression is basically the same as gz, but you wouldn't know it from the file sizes.

    Tar archives everything together, then compresses. The advantage is that there are more patterns available across all the files, so it can be compressed a lot more.

    Zip compresses individual files, then archives. The individual files aren't going to be compressed as much because they aren't handling patterns between files. The advantages are that an error early in the file won't propagate to all the other files after it, and you can read a file in the middle without decompressing everything before it.

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    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 87 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Obligatory shilling for unar, I love that little fucker so much

    • Single command to handle uncompressing nearly all formats.
    • No obscure flags to remember, just unar <yourfile>
    • Makes sure output is always contained in a directory
    • Correctly handles weird japanese zip files with SHIFT-JIS filename encoding, even when standard unzip doesn't
    [–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    gonna start lovingly referring to good software tools as “little fuckers”

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    [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 59 points 4 months ago (4 children)
    [–] youRFate@feddit.de 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    7z is available for Linux as well (CLI only)

    It is open-source too.

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    [–] TaintPuncher@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)
    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago

    When I was on windows I just used 7zip for everything. Multi core decompress is so much better than Microsoft's slow single core nonsense from the 90s.

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    [–] EddyBot@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 4 months ago (3 children)
    [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

    You can't decrease something by more than 100% without going negative. I'm assuming this doesn't actually decompress files before you tell it to.

    Does this actually decompress in 1/13th the time?

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, Facebook!

    Sucks but yes that tool is damn awesome.

    Meta also works with CentOS Stream at their Hyperscale variant.

    [–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 24 points 4 months ago

    Makes sense. There are actual programmers working at facebook. Programmers want good tools and functionality. They also just want to make good/cool/fun products. I mean, check out this interview with a programmer from pornhub. The poor dude still has to use jquery, but is passionate to make the best product they can, like everone in programming.

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    [–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 47 points 4 months ago (13 children)
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    [–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 38 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    When I'm feeling cool and downloading a *.tar* file, I'll wget to stdout, and tar from stdin. Archive gets extracted on the fly.

    I have (successfully!) written an .iso to CD this way, too (pipe wget to cdrecord). Fun stuff.

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    [–] smeg@feddit.uk 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    .tar.gz, or .tgz if I'm in a hurry

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    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] Drummyralf@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

    Can someone explain why MacOS always seems to create _MACOSX folders in zips that we Linux/Windows users always delete anyway?

    [–] Surreal@programming.dev 19 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Window adds desktop.ini randomly too

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    [–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    this is a complete uneducated guess from a relatively tech-illiterate guy, but could it contain mac-specific information about weird non-essential stuff like folder backgrounds and item placement on the no-grid view?

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    [–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 4 months ago

    .fitgirlrepack

    [–] cygon@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I'm the weird one in the room. I've been using 7z for the last 10-15 years and now .tar.zst, after finding out that ZStandard achieves higher compression than 7-Zip, even with 7-Zip in "best" mode, LZMA version 1, huge dictionary sizes and whatnot.

    zstd --ultra -M99000 -22 files.tar -o files.tar.zst

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    [–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    .tar.7z gang (probably not a good idea)

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    [–] jh29a@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I use .tar.gz in personal backups because it's built in, and because its the command I could get custom subdirectory exclusion to work on.

    [–] ordellrb@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Me removing the plastic case of a 2.5' sata ssd to make it physically smaller

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    [–] devilish666@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

    7z gang joined the chat.....

    [–] madscience@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

    Mf’ers act like they forgot about zstandatd

    [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    I mean xz/7z has kind of been the way for at least a decade now

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    [–] maniel@sopuli.xyz 17 points 4 months ago (6 children)
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    [–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago
    [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

    Can we please just never use proprietary rar ever. We have 7z, tar.gz, and the classic zip

    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 months ago

    all the cool kids use .cab

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

    I use the command line every day, but can't be bothered with all the compression options of tar and company.

    zip -r thing.zip things/ and unzip thing.zip are temptingly more straightforward.

    Need more compression? zip -r -9 thing.zip things/. Need a faster option? Use a smaller digit.

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    "yes i would love to tar -xvjpf my files"

    -- statement dreamed up by the utterly insane

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    [–] janAkali@lemmy.one 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Zip is fine (I prefer 7z), until you want to preserve attributes like ownership and read/write/execute rights.

    Some zip programs support saving unix attributes, other - do not. So when you download a zip file from the internet - it's always a gamble.
    Tar + gzip/bz2/xz is more Linux-friendly in that regard.

    Also, zip compresses each file separately and then collects all of them in one archive.
    Tar collects all the files first, then you compress the tarball into an archive, which is more efficient and produces smaller size.

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