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A ringleader in a global monkey torture network exposed by the BBC has been charged by US federal prosecutors.

Michael Macartney, 50, who went by the alias "Torture King", was charged in Virginia with conspiracy to create and distribute animal-crushing videos.

Mr Macartney was one of three key distributors identified by the BBC Eye team during a year-long investigation into sadistic monkey torture groups.

Two women have also been charged in the UK following the investigation.

Warning: This article contains disturbing content

Mr Macartney, a former motorcycle gang member who previously spent time in prison, ran several chat groups for monkey torture enthusiasts from around the world on the encrypted messaging app Telegram.

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[–] Skates@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If this were a just world, this dude would be left in the gorilla enclosure to find himself at the mercy of a bigger mammal and get beaten to death. But life's not fair, so let's penny-pinch: is this guy worth anything to society? No. Will his continued existence (when he is allowed to be free again) be beneficial? No. Is his continued existence in prison more expensive than a bullet? Yes. So let's just pull the trigger and move on.

Sometimes you need to cut your losses. This one was fucked up. Take it out the back and dump it in the trash.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And should we apply this same "your life is only tolerated if you're worth something to society" to, for example, the severely disabled? I just want to be absolutely clear about who you think it's better to murder.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just want to be absolutely clear

No you don't, you just want me to give you enough arguments to make your case. Which wouldn't be necessary if you had a case at all.

should we apply this same "your life is only tolerated if you're worth something to society" to, for example, the severely disabled?

It's interesting that you think disabled people are worth nothing to society. I guess you've never of Stephen Hawking, Stevie Wonder or Michael J. Fox? Or maybe you've heard of them, but think they've brought nothing to society? Or maybe you're aware of them and acknowledge their impact, but you still think you're better than them, just because they're disabled. Yeah, option 3 sounds like you. Cunt.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No you don't, you just want me to give you enough arguments to make your case. Which wouldn't be necessary if you had a case at all.

Gotta claw back that moral high ground after openly advocating that someone is killed huh? People should know what your opinions are before they agree with you on the internet.

I guess you've never of Stephen Hawking, Stevie Wonder or Michael J. Fox?

This is fantastic because you've actually just named 3 people with disabilities you find acceptable because they're famous, leaving out the millions of people who aren't -- one of whom is me, which makes your indignation at being asked even more delicious.

So we still don't actually know if there's a threshold of disability that you consider better off murdered rather than costing you your precious pennies. It's not like the 3 people you named were non-verbal and in need of constant state care, they're just 3 disabled people with more money than you.

Yeah, option 3 sounds like you. Cunt.

Oh shit sounds like I've made your "okay to shoot in the head" list.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gotta claw back that moral high ground

I'm not sure where you think the moral high ground is, but there's nobody for me to claw it back from - or at least certainly not you. I'm amazed you've even heard of it, because you've obviously never seen it considering that I'm advocating for killing people who are leading an animal abuse group, while you're literally saying people are worthless because they're disabled.

I'm skipping the middle paragraphs but I'm gonna assume you realized you Freudian slipped your way into showing you're an ableist cunt, so now you're trying to prove you're not, or that I'm the bigger asshole, or some sort of last ditch attempt to make yourself sound reasonable. "Haha I'm not a dipshit I was trolling all along" style. As if anyone in their right mind is just going to skip past the fact that you're suggesting disabled people are worthless to society.

Oh shit sounds like I've made your "okay to shoot in the head" list.

You've gone through this entire conversation the wrong way, tbh. This is what happens when you try to put words in people's mouths to make your shitty arguments, you reveal your own thought process along the way. Let's go through it just to be clear: you obviously made the cunt list, because you're being an ableist cunt. But you seem to think the cunt list is the same as the "okay to shoot" list, and that's on you again. Because just like your previous "disabled people are worthless" opinion, it says more about you than me.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

literally saying people are worthless because they're disabled.

Oh well if I've literally said that, it should be easy enough for you to copy and paste a quote.

I'm skipping the middle paragraphs but I'm gonna assume you realized you Freudian slipped your way into showing you're an ableist cunt

You mean the part where I told you I'm disabled? That's certainly the most convenient part to skip if you want to keep calling a disabled person a cunt while pretending to not know the difference between "someone asked if this was my opinion" and "that is definitely what the person who asked thinks".

But you seem to think the cunt list is the same as the "okay to shoot" list, and that's on you again

Well I asked you to clarify who you deemed "valuable to society" and you threw a massive virtue-signalling tantrum instead, so maybe it's not on me at all.