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People's perspectives on things are weird. I'm totally fine with vegans, vegetarians, meat eaters, whoever. But when someone who eats meat is excited because they think meat tastes good...... why did you think they eat it??? Obviously they think it's yummy, and obviously, to a certain degree, they see animals as a source of that. If you want to fight against that fine, but don't act surprised that it exists.
Lots of people don't really understand where meat comes from. They understand the concept that an animal has to die, but they prefer their meat comming out of a plastic package.
Example: we used to raise our own animals, I knew every single one by name and saw them grow up. When it was time to slaughter them we brought them to the butcher, got a carcass and the fur back. Guests could help feed the animals, feel the fluffiest pillow out of treated fur and I could tell them the name of the animal we served. However, most of them (obviously all meat eaters) could not comprehend at all, how we could slaughter and process those absolutely cute things.
I prefer to know where my meat comes from. Many people prefer not to, so they can loose appetite or get upset if they see the animal before it is brought to the butcher.
Everyone should, at least once, kill something for their meal. It makes you appreciate it, even if I still buy meat from Costco, etc.
I agree, or if they can't handle it they shouldn't be eating it. Distancing yourself from the killing is just mental. If you're purchasing meat, you're causing something to be butchered. If you can't handle witnessing it/participating in it, you should reconsider eating it. The customer is still a participant who is willfully ignorant.
Bunnies are a good one. Also they're easy to breed.
The meat is a bit more "stretchy" though.
Its considered disrespectful.
The moral take of meat eating is that we respect the animals we kill to survive, and that we dont waste or belittle the animal just because its food.
This is the reason local farms are "more ethical" than commercial farming, because theyre more likely to treat the animal with respect.
Ramsey here is getting flack cause its kinda disrespectful to the living thing he is going to eat.
I don't think the animal was aware of the mockery
No one said it was?
Ok so what's the problem? No victim, no crime.
You arent trying to not hurt the lambs feelings.
You respect the animal because that respect is what keeps you from forgeting that the lamb is still a living, thinking, feeling animal even when its going to become food.
When you respect your livestock, you feed them well, keep them groomed, treat them when sick, and keep them reasonably happy. You cant abuse your animals when you respect them.
Obviously this doesnt mean ramsay is an animal abuser. Im sure he just thinks its a funny joke. In the right contexts, it usually is.
I don't think he can say anything that is comparable in disrespect to what happens in the average slaughterhouse (bad compared to ethically sourced meat? Sure, you could argue that)
Ok, and? You dont respect someone by finding the person who respects them the least and setting your bar 1 notch above that.
No, we eat everyone because they are TASTY! What Gordon is doing is AWESOME! I do the same every time I see any animal. ALL ANIMALS ARE FOOD!!!
Everything is food
Respect is a human concept. It isn't in nature and it's just to make people like you feel better about the fact that life means you gotta kill something to keep living. At least food is delicious.
The respect isnt to soothe the animals feelings.
The respect is to make sure you dont forget that the animal is also alive and feeling, and you still need to treat it well even though it will become food.
Its to keep forward in your mind that animal abuse is still abuse, even if the animal is meant for your dinner.
Respect is, also, abundant in nature. For starters, you and I arent aliens. But respect is an almost required aspect of most social species communal interactions. Corvids, other primates, snakes in heat, bees, etc.
I don't think 'surprised' is the word that really fits what is going on here. I'm a meat eater and even i think this is Unnecessary... inappropriate... in the same way that I hate idiot drivers even though I drive a car too.
but then your argument doesn't really have any relevancy if it's anything but pretending people are without the worldly experience you deem to have and believe we're just over here clutching pearls over it.
People are pretty obviously protesting his behavior prior to dining/slaughter.
There’s such a thing as responsible, informed omnivores who don’t like this objectifying bone head (wonder what home life is like with Gordon) or his behavior towards something that will give it’s life to sustain us.