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    [–] captain_oni@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I guess, all depends on what type of driver you're installing; but I had to install win10 on my brother's PC last week, these are the steps I had to take to install AMD's drivers (because the ones included with windows suck):

    1. Open Edge.
    2. Download Opera (his browser of choice) and install it.
    3. Google "AMD Drivers", go to the website
    4. Lookup the exact model of the processor: "Ryzen 3 3200G".
    5. Try to guess what fucking .exe file to download, since their descriptions are vague.
    6. Double click the .exe.
    7. next, deselect bloatware, next, install.
    8. Error on installation
    9. Lookup error code.
    10. Turns out Windows was downloading (not installing) an update at the same time, without telling me.
    11. Wait 15 minutes for windows to finish doing whatever it wants to do, without user consent.
    12. Reboot machine.
    13. Try again. Next, next, deselect bloatware, next, install
    14. Reboot machine again.
    15. (OPTIONAL) Curse Bill Gates, Steve Balmer and Satya Nadella for making me waste my time.
    [–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I don't know why it's become a stigma that installing things on Linux is hard when Windows requires you to Google sketchy .exes and .msis because their app store is so trash. For 99% of packages on Linux you can just open the software manager and click install.

    [–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Because Windows doesn't require you to google sketchy .exes and .msis....

    Unless you just consider them inherently sketchy, but can't really do anything about that. Hell the backlash for the store was mainly because people wanted to keep using .exes's.

    [–] Johanno@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Because their app store sucks!

    Install drivers per app store? Negative.

    Install vlc per app store? Get a half assed "mobile" Version that lacks most Features.

    But candy crush is already installed. Great!

    [–] captain_oni@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Remember that you can't mod the games you get through the windows store either. (unless they changed that recently?)

    [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    They did not. In fact, Windows ships in S mode now, which means you can't install ANYTHING outside of the appstore. Not even Office downloaded directly from Office(dot)com. You can turn S mode off, for now, but you need to (and I'm not shittin you) install an app from the appstore that disables S mode. But not without confirming that you're serious several times, and read through fear mongering with a "you get viruses if you install outside the appstore" scare tactic.

    Edit: killed the auto-URL

    [–] BURN@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’m gonna get hate, but I much prefer the independent distribution of exe files over package managers. I’ve still yet to have a good experience with a package manager. Almost all end up with outdated versions of software. My discord broke for a full day because the central arch repo hadn’t updated yet.

    [–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If you look up Discord on the Arch wiki, you will find instructions to prevent this. In other words, RTFM! (/s, I also had to be directed there by some redditor while ago)

    [–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I find that if I have to RTFM for my daily computer I’m always going to hate using it. I don’t like having to tinker with my operating system. It’s not fun, it just makes me hate Linux. There’s a reason I switched back to windows after a week. Nothing works and I’m not willing to waste hours of my time trying to fix it.

    [–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Maybe Arch shouldn't have been your distribution of choice then.

    [–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It was the only one I could get to work with my hardware. Tried Ubuntu, mint and Pop, and none of then worked. Arch was the only one that would output to 3 displays.

    [–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Were it some brand new monitors? The support may be better by now.

    [–] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    4ish years old at that point in time

    [–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

    I. Fucking. LOATHE Windows updates and the shenanigans they cause. Flames of hate!

    [–] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I have a w10 PC and an Nvidia card. You install NVidia GeForce Experience and click "download", then "install".

    For AMD, you would install AMD Catalyst and do the same.

    No bloatware for either.. don't do things the hard way!

    [–] iloverocks@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You must log in into geforce to use it=spyware

    Give me my driver and nothing more

    [–] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    Make a fake email?

    [–] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    You can download just the driver directly from Nvidia and not install GeForce experience

    [–] albert@lemmy.sysctl.io 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    nVidia drivers also contain on-by-default telemetry you just installed willingly.

    [–] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If you're concerned with it, then you have an issue. If you're not, you don't.

    [–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago

    I can say this about literally anything. You bought a new car, but it requires you to send nudes to the automobile company owner to be able to start the car? If you're concerned with it, then you have an issue. If you're not, you don't.

    [–] captain_oni@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

    well, GeForce Experience IS bloatware IMO, so... I'm screwed that way, I guess.

    [–] BURN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    Don’t even need GeForceExperience. You can download the driver installation exe directly from Nvidia without installing the bloatware.