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Closing nano is more complicated imo
No it isn't, it respect's ctrl+c, SIGINT and gives useful feedback for new users. Many shortcuts are immediately shown on screen.
If you open vim the first thing you will see it's a text describing how to close it. Not saying other things are easier for a new user but closing is pretty simple. EDIT: if press ctrl - c vim will show you what you should press instead
And the whole time you have nano open it shows you all the shortcuts how to save and close at the bottom, so no, closing nano is not harder.
Unless you don't know that ^ means Ctrl 🥲
Then you press ctrl+g for help and it tells you:
:D
Actually TIL about pressing esc twice.
Why would you press CTRL+G if you didn't know that ^ was CTRL?
Look at the screenshot I posted, it actually specifies "ctrl + g" for help.
I'd argue closing vim is still easier. You just have to hold down the power button long enough.
stop making sense its annoying
I had to look up the upside down V meant Ctrl, which makes sense to me now that I know, but I had to Google that.
Or you could look on the bar above the shortcuts that explicitly says Ctrl+G = help
It's called a caret
Nano is overrated. I tell everyone who needs to edit from the terminal to use vimtutor. You'll never go back to Nano.
What's so great on vim for the average Joe which isn't offered by nano?
Teleportation: the cursor can be teleport to any line without pressing down key multiple times...
Macro: for repeating a sequence of inputs multiple times...
Tabs: nano can't open multiple files at once i believe...
Split screen(horizontal and vertical)
Themes and plugins
These are a few that comes to mind...
Yeah, for all of those things, there's Micro.
Yes, but the person asked comparing to nano...
Vim has things like copy and paste, including being able to highlight text, search and replace, and I find its commands a lot less clunky than Nano's. I am not a software developer or a sysadmin, just someone who uses Linux for fun. All of this stuff works without having X or Wayland running too.
Reaching over to CTRL every time you want to copy some text, delete a word, delete the next character or perform any other basic edit starts to take a toll on your hands after 20 minutes
Nano is the MS notepad of Linux. No more, no less. You don't have the initial cost of learning vim with nano but in the end you're working more. I really don't understand how people can be productive without things like complex regexps, global commands, piping from the editor, etc.
Learning the basics of vim makes setting up a Linux system a lot easier. That's all I'm saying. You don't need to learn regexes or anything like that.
I totally agree. The point is that learning the more advanced features will pay off in the future.