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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No, I doubt that they're stupid. They don't think that they other guy will be better. However, I also doubt that Sophie Scholl thought that her death alone would stop the Holocaust. Sometimes there's a moral line that you just can't cross.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wish Harris was coming out more strongly, or at all really, against Israel's genocide. I can't imagine Trump will do anything substantial to reduce the conflict, certainly not more than Harris will.

I do not understand the Sophie Scholl analogy. Sophie distributed anti-war leaflets, among other things. She did not advocate voting for another party that would likely just continue the war, while also removing other freedoms, into power.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The connection that I have in mind is, "doing what's moral, even if it might harm yourself."

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I do not understand how supporting Trump will result in a better outcome in Gaza 🤷 If anything, it seems like the opposite is likely.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Voting for trump (or proxy voting for him) is crossing a moral line.

And brings them further from their goal.

Rage voting doesn’t fix anything. It stands to make it worse.

I can’t understand some people’s drive to vote in a tyrant because they’re annoyed by a centrist.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The hitch is that other people do what's right according to their own moral reckoning, whether you understand it or not.

[–] blusterydayve26@midwest.social 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don’t think voting for Trump will help the Palestinians, when he says things like,

“you’ve got to have victory. You have to have a victory, and it’s taking a long time." Trump said that Israel must "finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life."

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Or, as we call it, cutting off the nose to spite the face.

As long as they own the side effects, then cool.