tiredOfFascists

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[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Again, point me to apple's attempts to implement or help create a texting standard. Unless you'd like to instead say that standards are not an extremely important part of human society. Because unless you believe that, their actions are indefensible and that's a separate issue from how fucked up Google is.

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How could you possibly know this? Do you think despair helps anything?

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You're ignoring the part where Google tried and carriers and apple refused.. That's not some irrelevant detail

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Google attempted an open standard, carriers refused. Apple actively refuses to participate or help. Not sure why so many apple simps can't ever acknowledge that standards are important. It's likely if you look around you at any given moment, you'll dozens of vital everyday products that are cheap or possible due to standards. The rest of computing is built heavily on standards. Standards === modern society. Yet apple can do no wrong if they explicitly dodge standards for profit.

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Oh great, so then when will apple be releasing their open standard for secure and feature rich texting?

...waits decades....

Oh yeah that's right, doing so would prevent them from pretending that things jUsT wOrKiNg is only something an apple product is capable of because any other product is obviously garbage.

We all know the reason apple often avoids standards is purely for profit. They do it knowing it is bad for their users. So let's not pretend that privacy is all they care about. At least google attempted a standard. And yes Google sucks ass. But I have more respect for a company that believes in standards than one whose business model only works because they strategically avoid them

Why would they not be?

Thread winner 😂

I mean, for your logic to hold up at all, it requires ignoring a very real fact. A second hand phone was already purchased. That transaction was done already, and there exists no world in which if you don't buy the second hand phone the seller will think "omg no one will buy this, guess I have to switch from Google forever". Another person will absolutely buy it. But even if not, then it gets wasted, and I think the environmental impact being ignored here is a pretty crass move also. I'm not willing to sacrifice environmental concerns to send a message to Google. Honestly they absolutely know how many phones are running stock android so that number decreasing would "send the message" just the same without a phone potentially ending up in a landfill.

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're very correct. A core belief at apple is that the customer is too stupid to know what they want, so you can whatever you want down their throat.

There is some merit to the idea that true innovation won't be anticipated by customers so you have to take risks. But the way apple does it pisses me off to no end.

No apple, removing every port (except shitty ass lightning ports of course) is not a good idea. It just isn't.

Welcome to 2014 my friend

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not if but when it bites you, it likely will not be pretty.

You're rejecting dozens of not hundreds of ways to avoid having bad things happen, just a couple examples being having your identity stolen or losing data. These risks already exist no matter what you do, but they are several times more likely with every few months that you go without security updates.

Besides that, you will eventually be forced to update, either because your device dies and has to be replaced or because of something like software you require refuses to run on your 8 year old OS. When you get that new OS, the jarring effect will be much worse than if you just allowed your devices to evolve as designed. Updates are not a bug, they are an extremely valuable feature.

Your reasoning that it ain't broke so you don't fix it leads me to believe you have never written software. All software is inherently broken. Products under development for 30 years still have flaws so fundamental it's hard to even imagine. I say all of this as someone who has had his hard drive wiped accidentally by software bugs, had email and other accounts randomly hacked, and personally worked with broken ass software from the world leading giants. And as a software developer I can say for sure: all software, no exceptions, is barely working. No matter how solid it it seems, some random weird edge case can cause complete failure

Update your shit. It's not even that often that stuff breaks in (non Windows at least) OS updates these days

Well yeah and we should and some people do. We can (actually have a duty to) recognize a multitude of problems in the world.

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