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If you live in a democracy with first past the poll elections with an electoral college, then you should understand how the system works and vote accordingly.

If you understand, then you understand that only swing states matter and you're essentially free to vote as you feel in solid red or blue states.

Pipe dreams will usually poll well with people stupid enough to believe them.

What's with y'all always being so willing to show how you bleed when scratched?

Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala.

Neither of these facts alone necessarily implicate the candidates. You really have to consider the context. Being endorsed by someone hardly means you keep their company.

What is the point of comparing Helene to Katrina? Harvey was also a 4.

Why discount the impact of Katrina just because there were systematic issues? It was a natural disaster and that was the impact.

Because it comes off to me like you're trying to "well ackshully" about Helene being really the most devastating hurricane.

Why are you making this some type of competition?

To be fully transparent, the next paragraph says her team disputes that characterization.

But I remember similar articles before Obamacare was passed talking about how the admin had started assuring private insurance that there would be no public option in the final bill.

And lo and behold, we know what happened there.

Right? Imagine believing there are enough conscientious progressives / leftists to flip CA red because of third party voting. Sure, Jan.

You're nice for engaging in good faith.

It's a bit funny that people who seem to think they are the politics, Marx, and communism understanders don't even seem to understand basic Marxism that I picked up in an intro to political philosophy class, which covered Marx for all of about two weeks.

You wouldn't be here without us

People win suits against the police all the time. It's just the police rarely face consequences for it, especially as an institution.

We know this.

In an electoral college system, only swing states matter.

But parties will pay attention if votes are siphoned from them. If you're not in a swing state, a third party vote has basically no negative effect but may have a positive effect of influencing a major party.

I think it's more than arguable that voting for Kamala in Louisiana or Mississippi or even potentially California is a bigger waste of a vote than voting third party.

Withholding a protest vote (for either side) and supporting voter apathy is lame as hell.

What are you talking about? You know there are more than two candidates running, right? I'm literally saying I will be voting third party in a presidential election as I always have, and me voting third party has literally never mattered because the electoral college. Who's withholding their vote? Although, that doesn't mean I think voting in a bourgeois democracy is actually a meaningful expression of political power and organization.

You're all hand winging about people on the left who just don't want to vote Democrat, again even in states where the result is already known. You can't even dare to criticize Democrats or send any message even in safe states like CA, WA, or NY. Because the handful of conscientious leftists are definitely gonna flip CA red or could definitely flip MS blue if they sucked it up and went for Kamala.

When the capitalists continue to fuck us , you'll have done fuck all to push socialism because you spend all your time, again, running defense for one of the two most powerful capitalist institutions in the world.