theacharnian

I do not dispute that antisemitism exists and is fucking dangerous. No dispute there whatsoever. But I am very confused if specifically people who are pro-palestine act it out against diaspora Jews. Like, I would assume the logical thing would be "we want you right here, safe and happy, no need for you to do aliyah and go settle in Palestine". Every Jew who doesn't feel threatened in the diaspora is one less potential settler in Palestine. Like antisemitism on its own is repugnant, of course, but even for entirely selfish/pro-palestine reasons, it's clear that antisemitism against the Jewish diaspora directly harms Palestinians.

To put it differently: as a Canadian, I feel ashamed when my politicians say that Israel is the safest country in the world for Jews. Why can't Canada be better than some war torn, militaristic apartheid state?

I know that Jewish diaspora institutions have been extremely unfairly targetted recently.

TW: attack

For example, in Montreal and in Toronto there have been disgusting shooting attacks against Jewish schools.

Thankfully, in the ones I know of, nobody had been hurt, even if it has had a chilling and terrorizing effect. But that's entirely different.

A protest in broad daylight in a central space, I don't understand what kind of "peril" any random Jewish person might be faced with. I mean you will hear rhetoric against Israel and if you show up with an Israeli flag to counter protest you will get yelled at. But that's not any kind of special peril for the diaspora in general. Show up with a Turkish flag at a Kurdish rally and the same applies. That's not a peril for diaspora Turks.

That's a weird thing to say. How are protesters blocking a bridge affect British Jews specifically? They didn't block it only for jews and leave it open for non-jews or something.

You know who has the absolute power to end that war, proxy or not? Russia. Russia does. They can withdraw back to their internationally recognized borders and the war will end immediately.

The Jerusalem Post weirdly filing this under the "Diaspora" category?

I don't understand why you need to compare with something else. The horrors speak for themselves. Compare with normalcy if you have to.

And when the horrors of Israeli genocide don't align perfectly with the ones of Nazi genocide, you end up having to have the least productive discussion in the world. Or you get the discussion of witch one is worse in the horror Olympics. Not to mention you rhetorically open up the space for concern trolls and spurious antisemitism attacks. It really is counterproductive.

We don't need Holocaust analogies, they only obscure reality and evoke mixed emotions. The blur things.

Israeli apartheid and genocide are their own unique kind of human horror. We don't need postmodernism here. Call it for what it actually is.

Ghouls like those chanting "Māwet lā-Arāvīm"?

And if your dream were ever to come true (and I unwaveringly support you in that), would you accept to live in the conditions that Palestinians are forced to endure in the occupied territories? Hell, even the conditions that Arab Israelis are enduring as second class citizens inside Israel proper?

I don't fucking think so.

Which brings me back to my main question: do you accept the basic Enlightenment, Common-Sense principle of same rights, and same laws, and same protections for all people from the river to the sea?

I'm looking at the Fatah charter and I don't see that line you claim is there ("no other human can be Palestinian, besides Arabs").

Are you making some kind of bad faith reference to the line "Long live Palestine, free and Arab"? Because this line is entirely consistent with the two-state solution, which imagines a Jewish Israel alongside an Arab Palestine.

TFW you realize countries outside NATO also have rule of law.