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I think it's in the right place given the low levels of

oh for sure that was not the unfortunate part ^_^

I recently discovered I can just mix miso into my seitan mixtures with a bit of extra water to compensate and it's INCREDIBLE

Sure, though I'm going to omit a number of details and drastically simplify things.

I stopped eating meat very early in the pandemic because I could no longer intellectualize my way around the cognitive dissonance of having the contents of the IPCC reports/summaries in my head and the taste of the meat in my mouth. This was the a fairly easy transition because I like cooking and I was already eating lots of food with beans in it. I spent some time shamefully addicted to cheese, kinda-half-thinking that the vegans who bullied me on this site (and for my pizzaposting in the old sub) were correct but (because of a spiritual and intellectual laziness that I'm working really hard on) I refused to properly educate myself about why they were right. Around 2021 a good friend went vegan after a series of acid trips in which much of their spirituality and moral philosophy reoriented. I'm most grateful that they were willing to patiently bully me into confronting my own hypocrisy and accepting the discomfort in that kind of introspection. Once I did that in a serious way, it became undeniably clear that my convictions that all humans have the right to clean air, water, sustenance, shelter, medicine, education/information, and the complete product of their labor is really a corollary to a more general principal guaranteeing these kinds of rights to all living beings.

Actions/outcomes that helped push me in this direction:

-learning biology, chemistry, neuroscience, and maths

-taking lots of LSD, mushrooms, and some DMT over a period of years (I think this has made it easier to keep my mind open even when subconscious psychological machinery would reflexively close it to prevent discomfort and in tandem with the contemplation I've done on these substances has inculcated a powerful disgust for delf-deception, hypocritical thought)

-hiking and learning about wilderness/conservation

-seeing how hard the US national park service works mules and horses used to move supplies and do infrastructure maintenance in incredibly hazardous positions where a small misstep by a different animal that they're tied to could cause them to land a hoof wrong around a sharp chunk of rebar sticking up out of a poorly-maintained trail step/berm just a few minutes after talking about the negative impacts of motorboats and helicopters on the local wildlife

-practicing cooking (especially beans in a pressure cooker) as often as I could

She was just getting into the later entries of The Killers' discography

The argument of viciousness puts us against "nature". The argument of torture and exploitation does not.

Do you not see humanity breeding chicks into existence solely to be shredded to bits as fundamentally different from having the bad luck of being eaten by a predator?

If I specifically had the choice of how I was terminated, I don't know if I'd choose being eaten alive by a predator over that.

Why are you arguing as though being eaten alive by a predator is the only alternative?

It takes no effort to prevent an animal from living a life of deprivation and torture, compared to preventing an animal from dying as a juvenile.

Unfortunately, in our economic system, I have to eat pounds upon pounds of seitan to offset the most minute fraction of needless animal deprivation, torture, and premature death

OP only mentioned "savagely murdering"

Do you know what happens to male chicks?

Holy Hell I need to become a vegan like yesterday, this shit is fuuuucked.

To you and anybody else reading this, I was feeling the same thing not very long ago. It's almost surely much easier than you think to be a vegan and it feels so much better.

Please message me or make a post if you want recipe recommendations or have questions about veganism

thanks!

you're welcome!

thank you

I needed the philosophical meditations

go egan

so let's burn the basket a bit faster and yeet one of the eggs against a brick wall