bigMouthCommie

I'm organizing locally to build power outside of the state.

there are web clients for mumble

sounds like it's time to allow third-party clients distribute the server software, shut down free "servers" and offer paid hosting and support. that would cut costs a great deal.

i'm not wishing. i'm organizing.

>But with others already able to exploit that, why would Proton want to do that?

to comply with a warrant

use the service, and tell them to use it. just like how they made you use discord. and you can whine every time they refuse.

https://disroot.org/en/services/audio

they could ship malicious js to their frontend that would give them access to the unencrypted session. you are going on faith every time you load the interface.

no one said they are the same

I don't trust them because they don't use established security practices and their interfaces abstract away the internals and they have complied with law enforcement and admitted they could compromise contents(not just metadata) and they don't accept anonymous payment.