Imnecomrade

I don’t give one solitary shit who you vote for, I was trying to understand the strategy I’ve heard advocated for in these forums.

If you don't give a shit, then why are you continuing to make a fuss about all of the answers people have given you in multiple different ways that explain our strategy? You obviously do give a shit, otherwise you wouldn't continue arguing instead of learning from our side for once. We're just going in circles. You say you read Marx, then I suggest you also read Lenin as well because I don't think anyone here is going to change your mind except yourself.

Voting against the two party system gives statistics on the dissatisfaction of the population. It shows people that people are fed up and don't want to continue participating in this fascist dictatorship. It's also not about who voted for who and the results of the election. The point is to take advantage of the time when most people pay attention to politics and educate them while we still have their attention. Do you not want PSL to do this? Should we just sit back and wait for the conditions that spark potential revolution that we would fail at because we didn't build the ship?

I met a bunch of people during petitioning and was able to help build awareness of our party as most people didn't know about us at all. We were out in the streets protesting and marching for Palestine. We made a commitment to being persistent in supporting our communities during multiple struggles. We built class consciousness by supporting the Black communities when people were murdered by the cops. We give a voice to Palestinian Americans that the DNC treats as subhuman.

I personally witnessed events started by my pre-branch having an attendance of a few people to many hundreds this year alone. We stopped various bills from passing in our state, which surprised us, and we put our state on the map. Project 2025 doesn't disappear by voting for Kopmala, it is stopped by us working together against the system and eventually overthrowing our bourgeois oppressors.

How the hell are we supposed to build a movement if we keep telling people to vote for the lesser of two evils? Do we not participate in elections? What are we gaining by so-called "buying time"? We're fucked by either party. They both operate for capitalists. It literally makes no difference. There's no time bought. The same policies are going to occur regardless of who's in office.

If PSL, FRSO, etc. were to tell everyone to vote Kamala, don't you think that will kill so much support for our movement? Then who is supposed to take the reigns of the new party? Wouldn't that force us to start all over again? And why would we want such a massive blunder to kill the momentum that our party has built for the past 20 years? Why give up on our values and submit to the bourgeoisie? Being a communist means not being tailist.

Should this forum of comrades just say we need to vote for the other Hitler? Doesn't that go against our values? What do you want from us?

What waste of energy? The 1 fucking minute it takes to fill out my ballot that they mail me? That’s the thing you are upset about?

You're also complaining on social media about people not wanting to vote for Kamala Hitleress. You're advocating for people to "vote the lesser of two evils", which is not really going to save us and conflicts with educating people about the illegitimacy of our obviously-not-democracy. Telling people to vote for the "lesser of two evils" while claiming to bring class consciousness by educating people on Marx is essentially expecting reformism to work, which it never has, and never will, especially in the belly of the beast, aka Amerikkka. This is why ML parties like the PSL are against telling their comrades to give up and vote for the DNC. It's antithetical for communists to do this and achieves nothing.

Voting for a third party candidate, and better yet, working with a ML party like PSL helps spread class consciousness, even by a little. Worrying about elections when one of two oppressor parties are going to win anyway is a waste of energy and could have been better spent building a movement for the long-term. If we don't build the ship by the time the material conditions in the future give opportunities for revolution, we will not succeed as the proletariat. Yes, it's extremely difficult to organize people in the most propagandized country of the world. That's why we need all of the help we can get. I believe delaying the collapse is the worse choice anyway as I don't believe people are going to be radicalized until their material conditions worsen greatly and quickly. People are too comfortable with the current fascist rule, and Project 2025 is already mostly implemented here despite the fear-mongering.

I swore I saw this video posted here or somewhere else a while ago, and now I can't find it. Here's a relevant post in case you missed it:

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3738181

I tend to have to fish for instances, whether it's Piped (which I believe hasn't been working for a while) or Invidious, especially those that have the latest patches. It's a war between YouTube and privacy frontends, so I constantly switch between multiple apps on my phone and the web instances. Grayjay on Android has been the most reliable.

I'm happy the playlist helped you. One of my favorite commands I learned and wasn't familiar with is the mkfifo command. This command is really handy as I didn't know it was possible to save a pipe into memory without needing to make a temporary file.

I realized I didn't test a video to see if it worked on the instance. Switched to an invidious instance that is working for me.

Thanks, I must have broke the post during an edit. It should be fixed now.

It's a bit busy for a flag, but if there is a way to remove some of the detail, I would want to order a custom-made flag with a design similar to this.

Also I see the medicine wheel symbol has some white background not fully cut. It could use a little touch-up.

I also found this flag, but I like the use of the medicine wheel and the turtle above more.

Also on NATOpedia, there's some criticism regarding misappropriation of the medicine wheel symbol by the non-Indigenous people. I wonder if anyone here is more well read on the topic to explain about the misappropriation and what a potential Indigenous flag of Turtle Island would like and how it would be better representative of the Native Americans, if it is even possible without distorting their traditions by combining them.

Perhaps when revolution comes and the Indigenous people and Blacks have self-determination, maybe they would prefer to be represented as several separate nations/states.

There's also this flag from the American Indian Movement:

Another variation:

Meh, it's not a god-tier joke, let alone a good one, just some amusing thought that wanted to escape out of my thought prison.

That makes sense, my bad.

the working class has no nation

Ahem...we have a few AES nations. Just because you live in occupied Turtle Island, the occupied Global South, or some other fascist Western nation doesn't mean the revolutionary proletariat has no socialist nation to support.