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https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14knc6t/got_r4d_for_pirating_someone_elses_john_oliver_so/

Pirates want to stay on Reddit? This is the last group I had expected to have such a reaction, but here we are. Yes, the mod could have worded it better, but these people actually want to stick around on Reddit.

I personally find Lemmy to be a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit for such subs. I wonder about the reasons why these people still don't want to move.

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[–] bashfluff@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

Why wouldn't they want to stay? It works for them. Before ideology, before morality, before any other thing you can conceive of is plain, simple convenience. And Reddit is certainly convenient. Once enough users leave, they'll leave, too.

[–] DrQuint@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

/r/Piracy

That's not the real games piracy sub anyways. The true successor of the scene-watching community is and always was /r/CrackWatch and even there people are very aware that they're not contributors, just spectators. So basically, it was a place for movies piracy, and movies piracy is and always been the most piss easy, top result on google piracy around. I haven't gone on a single website to pirate movies in a decade, shit is all searchable either directly on qBit and deluge or on tracker tools.

They don't want to come over, so what? They're irrelevant. A wiki service reddit, barely anything else. A place for people who unironically install uTorrent and don't even know what the u stands for.

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, anyone who actually cares is not on reddit anymore, so you're seeing the worst of the worst takes.

A lot of people on r/piracy are pirates by convenience, not by ethics. The sub being shut down is not convenient for them. It's really sad to see how many people have the attention span of a goldfish, and can't think beyond "this isn't convenient for me today."

[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pirates by ethics = root of socialism, anarchism?

Pirates by convenience = root of capitalism and imperialism?

[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Hey, they can stay on Reddit with their beloved memes, I don't really care.

[–] tamashika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's so hard to join lemmy now, and everything lags in lemmy even just an upvote...

[–] drdrago1337@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Lemmy still has the same inherent drawbacks of Reddit, but now the mods have complete power with no admin oversight whatsoever.

  2. The moderators of a community have no right to kill it. If people wish to leave for Lemmy, I welcome it. if the other sub died naturally, I'd migrate over here myself (the same way I migrated to Reddit gradually through dozens of forums dying naturally)

Forcefully trying to kill the sub serves no purpose other than to centralize piracy knowledge, benefit Reddits IPO by getting rid of a hated subreddit, and allow more mod censorship. Also, Lemmy isn't indexed by google, so you're fully reliant on the inbuilt search unlike Reddit. (which makes Lemmy less useful for finding specific content)

  1. Lemmy is still in it's early stages. I'm a part of 1k+ communities on Reddit and fewer than half have a prescence on Lemmy or an equivalent.

  2. Dearth of NSFW content. (I mean really, it's kinda sad. Even twitter has more regularly posted nsfw than Lemmy.)

  3. UI and UX are garbage. I've had more 503s on Lemmy the past week than Reddit the past 8 years. The new reddit app looks & feels better than any available android app for Lemmy. (and honestly on desktop too)

  4. Why 'move' ?

If the mods don't want to moderate the old sub, then pass the torch.

Considering piracy's focus on decentralization, y'all are oddly supportive of centralizing your content on a Lemmy instance hosted by one guy.

Which brings me to:

  1. The person who hosts the Lemmy instance can edit the database directly just like Spez can with Reddit. You're trading centralized power around admins for centralized power around the server host. So essentially just downgrading to the old forum days.. (you know, the stuff Reddit replaced in large part.)

I'm sure this will get downvoted to hell, but these are a few reasons why the Reddit community shouldn't be killed.

[–] hopetelescope@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy IS indexed by Google. Try searching for “site:lemmy.world” for instance. Also, if it you don’t like the way one admin is running their communities/server then you can move to another server/community and be completely out of the control of the first. Try doing that on Reddit.

[–] DanTheMan827@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because Lemmy isn’t as conveniently accessed, and it’s just slow.

It’s also confusing.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you mention the specific points of confusion that have impeded your experience here?

[–] DanTheMan827@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Trying to find a community for a popular topic isn’t the easiest in the world… it’s a bit like the old days where you had to find a good forum for the topic you wanted to chat about.

[–] DreamySweet@vlemmy.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They probably don't want to learn, so they won't try to learn how to use Lemmy or Kbin.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty cringe given that they had to learn in order to pirate in the first place. I can't imagine being this lazy.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)