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The unofficial Lemmy movement to bring proportional representation to all levels of government in Canada.

Voters deserve more choice and accountability from all politicians.

Le mouvement non officiel de Lemmy visant à amener la représentation proportionnelle à tous les niveaux de gouvernement au Canada.

Les électeurs méritent davantage de choix et de responsabilité de la part de tous les politiciens.

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We're looking for more moderators, especially those who are of french and indigenous identities.

Nous recherchons davantage de modérateurs, notamment ceux qui sont d'identité française et autochtone.

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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Most of the electorate do not support Pierre Poilievre.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Its very unlikely we get another Liberal government. All we can hope for is that we dont get a Conservative majority.

Pharmacist lobbies are practically salivating at the chance to make our healthcare system look more like the US.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We gotta make the liberals lives hell until they pass proportional representation because under Pierre Poilievre we will lose all the hard earned progress.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago

What progress?

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If we won't have a Liberal government, another NDP official opposition in a conservative minority might be nice. It's almost a defacto coalition of libs and ndp.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

This is probably the ideal outcome, assuming the polling numbers in this graph are accurate, and dont allow for a Con/Bloc/PPC coalition that is larger

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Lol. The liberals are in for a Kim Campbell level blowout, and Singh's attached himself to their boat.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Right, but suppose these percentages turned directly into seats via PR.

With 42% of the seats, the Conservatives wouldn’t have much trouble forming a coalition with the Bloc to get to 50%. It could come right down to 1 seat but in all likelihood they could make it.

Would you be happy with this outcome?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bloc are left of the Liberals

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s not that simple. The Bloc support a number of positions (mainly around immigration and language laws, minorities, and religious clothing) that we would consider hard right in the rest of the country. They could definitely find common ground with the Conservatives on an anti-immigration bill, for example.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

religious clothing

That’s left wing

Right wing are the religious people

Conservatives on an anti-immigration bill,

They could with the NDP but not the Cons who promise to make immigration easier

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's almost like we need more axes to describe political views than just left and right.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s fine but I think the person’s problem is that they think anything they don’t like is right wing and they don’t view parties as having opinions across the board

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The CAQ who implemented the law is right wing.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The comment you replied to already addressed that

they don’t view parties as having opinions across the board

And if you follow the other chain then you’ll see they mistakenly thought it didn’t apply to Christians so after being corrected they most likely agree with the law

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except for the fact that the religious clothing rules do not apply to christians.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It does though….

The only exceptions are tattoos (banned in Christianity) and hair (nothing specific in Christianity)

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

I doubt the Tories and the Bloc would form a coalition, Tories went hard against coalitions and framed them as illegal and a power grab back in the Harper years, when they prorogued parliament to effectively kill it, the Bloc was in a supply agreement with that proposed coalition, the Bloc themselves don't align with Tory policies.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s better than a majority conservative government.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I suppose yeah. I think the hard part about convincing the Liberals to pass PR is that they probably fear this sort of thing becoming a permanent arrangement: Conservative pluralities, coalitions, and never getting a shot at a Liberal majority again.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

40 liberal MPs compared to 3 conservatives MPs voted in favour of advancing an citizen’s assembly

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The Conservatives want majorities even more.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

EVERYTHING is better than an American-style con government.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

I hope not!!