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I want to roll my eyes every time I see somebody take this stance, not simply because it is tiresome and it takes no courage to say, but mostly because it ignores the context. Every time. It not only overlooks how and why neocolonialism lead to Hamas, it overlooks why Hamas would resort to crude tactics like taking hostages (as if the Zionist régime was always open to dialogue), it overlooks why a substantial percentage of Palestinian adults support Hamas, it overlooks the decades of atrocities that Zionist authorities have been committing against the Palestinians since day one, and most of all, it overlooks the overwhelming amount of power that the Zionist ruling class has in this situation.

My response: fine, you don’t have to like Hamas, but to focus on condemning it repeatedly is to lose sight of the very conditions and the ruling class that gave rise to Hamas in the first place; it’s a bland inaction that gets us nowhere. If you say ‘Hamas is the real problem’ or ‘Hamas is just as bad as the IDF’ then I’m afraid that you have missed the point completely.

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[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No. The Palestinian Authorit is the neocolonial security force oppressing Palestinians. The Fateh has been traitors since 1977. I wish people stopped repeating lies that Hamas was in any way backed by the usurping state of israel.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

False. The Zionist entity funded Hamas as an alternative to the large secular leftist liberation forces. This was meant to divide the resistance and make Palestine easier to crush. Fortunately it didn’t work out that way and secular forces United with the Islamic forces to fight for liberation.

Admitting this fact does not discredit Hamas, it is simply a part of history. Just because today’s Palestinian authority got co-opted and is today cringe doesn’t mean the PLO wasn’t an important force earlier on in the struggle.

Edit: I forgot the second half of an important contraction

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