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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech -4 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I know, call me a hater, but switch emulation was a bad idea. I argue that it was less emulation, it was more piracy why they got involved.

Sure we like to say that emulation is okay, but that wasn't really the thing here. The problem is this was taking money directly out of Nintendo's pockets.

Now, I don't like Nintendo, their lawyers are too trigger happy - but switch emulation basically loudly stuck out a collective middle finger at Nintendo - and they saw it. Of course it was doomed to be taken down.

Further, I think it was bad for the emulation community. By emulating modern current Gen games and essentially encouraging piracy, it tainted what the emulation goal is - which is to preserve games. Most older games we can point to a case on our shelf and say "I just want to play that again" but can't because the old hardware died.

By emulating current Gen switches they made emulation about piracy, not saying it didn't involve some of it, but it made it seem like pure piracy instead of about preservation.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Why do people not understand that piracy is COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY irrelevant to the LEGALITY of emulation?

There is no "Oh, but Nintendo was losing money..."

My electric company loses money when I generate solar power. That doesn't give them the legal right to come to my house and rip out my panels.

The established legal FACT is that emulation is LEGAL.

"But the pirates..."

No, shut up. Emulation is LEGAL. Making and distributing an emulator is LEGAL. And the best way to LOSE that legal right is to misunderstand that you have it and make the public think that there's some legal gray area here. There isn't.

You know what's illegal? PIRACY. And Nintendo has every legal right to go after PIRATES. They DON'T have the legal right to stop development of system emulators. Stop with this nonsense justification, because there isn't one. Nintendo is not legally right on ANY aspect of this.

Repeat after me:

CREATING AND DISTRIBUTING EMULATORS IS COMPLETELY LEGAL BY ESTABLISHED LAW AND LEGAL PRECEDENT AND NINTENDO ILLEGALLY EXTORTED SOMEONE INTO STOPPING A PROJECT.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you, but Nintendo's arguments are that the emulators pirated their code in order to develop the emulator and for it to function.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

If they have proof of that, more power to them, but at this point the only evidence I've seen in the case of Ryujinx is Nintendo making wild accusations. Maybe they have a case, maybe they don't. In either case, "But the game piracy..." is not and has never been a valid defense of Nintendo's actions.

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